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Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by ericmay on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:46AM (#32867729)
If they all wink wink do it at the same time then it doesn’t matter.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by twblalock on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:50AM (#32867810)
Yeah but they aren't. And they won't.

If there was collusion going on, compensation never would have skyrocketed over the past decade.

Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by mrguyorama on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:42PM (#32870338)
There have been multiple times in the past decade that FAANG colluded to decrease wages.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by twblalock on Friday September 16, 2022 @02:57PM (#32870525)
I can only think of one, and it was an anti-poaching agreement from 2005 that the involved companies paid compensation for later. I haven’t seen any reason to believe that is still happening.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by marvin on Friday September 16, 2022 @05:33PM (#32872270)
I wonder what kind of collusion Europe is up to, with salaries at 50%-20% of those available in the US.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by peyton on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:50PM (#32873804)
Productivity is generally lower.
Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by marvin on Monday September 19, 2022 @03:06PM (#32902504)
2x-5x? Color me skeptical. Depending on what's behind that statement, it could actually be a bit insulting. I've been to US tech conferences; US developers aren't doing anything differently than the Northern European ones. Many times, I've heard discussions of at those conferences of processes that are more broken than the ones I wrestle with.

It's a combination of corruption, collusion, widespread inefficiencies that limits high salaries at the margins (meaning that the marginal company available to each employee is never desperate), very high pre-payroll hidden taxation. Also, importantly I think, a lack of competition between multiple globally dominant tech companies with huge profits per employee and a very obvious pathway to monetizing each additional employee's labor.

So, complex answer. But I'd stake money that collusion, often silently government-sanctioned, is significantly more common than in the US.

An example of this is very common in Norway, where practically all education is state-funded and the number of students for each profession is directly decided by the state. Private-sector interest groups have almost direct control over some of these processes, disguised as a public debate in the newspapers leading up to quota decisions. This leads to an almost planned economy of the availability of professionals.

Re:Shopify lets staff decide cash-stock pay mix as shares dive by faangiq on Friday September 16, 2022 @12:00PM (#32868009)
Comp is still 2x less than it should be