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Re:Please don't be spooky by IanCal on Friday September 16, 2022 @04:48AM (#32863755)
Or it's quite simply about mental health - which doesn't have to come with feelings that it's down to poor character or failures in upbringing.

It's entirely reasonable that my brain is just different to yours.

> It's a sad state affairs when people are so anxious that a simple inquiry can cause them distress.

Yes. I would assume that the person posting this would much rather not get distressed about this kind of thing.

I wouldn't say it causes me distress per se, but a blank "Can you talk" can by default launch my brain down a tree of "why, what if it's X or Y, it's this time and they so...". Being able to do this kind of thing makes me good at my job and worse at some social things, and work I've done to focus on "THIS LINE OF ENQUIRY IS NOT IMPORTANT TO PURSUE, BRAIN" make me better at both. It's still a conscious thing that I think other people don't have to deal with.

I don't see it as a character flaw, a failure of upbringing or controlled by my work (since it's not tied to work). It's just who I am and maybe that is a sad thing to you, I'd rather not have the downsides but I'm not sure I'd trade away a full part of how I think just for a bit of peace.

Re:Please don't be spooky by Bakary on Friday September 16, 2022 @09:36AM (#32865876)
I have a very similar type of mental burden to what you are describing. What I have discovered is that ultimately connecting it to a sense of identity, especially in a combative context vs. normies, is a losing battle that only increases anxiety. This is still the case even if it nominally seems like a logical choice to avoid unwarranted self-esteem issues in the face of culturally enforced social norms.

At the end of the day, when it's something as trivial as a Teams ping, the onus is on us to confront the anxiety and to work on our reactions. I sympathize with the author and see myself in him but it's not a part of me that would be good to enable.

Perhaps a clearer example would be someone who is afraid of swimming. It's a good idea for them to fight back against people who needlessly mock them for it. They shouldn't feel lesser for their struggles. But if they find themselves in a body of water, the Universe will not care one iota about the life history and mental world that prevented them from learning.

Re:Please don't be spooky by satisfice on Friday September 16, 2022 @11:49AM (#32867787)
If I were working with you I would adjust my style. What I object to is the implication that everyone must dial down to the level of the most anxious among us.

You don’t seem to realize how productive it is for I and my colleagues to ping each other for short real-time communications. Most people can handle this. I respect that you don’t want to, but don’t make general rules that are only about the comfort of a tiny few.

Re:Please don't be spooky by scruple on Friday September 16, 2022 @01:44PM (#32869539)
It has nothing to do with anxiety for me, personally, and everything to do with simple courtesy. When my colleagues message me things like this, this is the conversation we have:

Colleague: "Hey, do you have a minute to get on a call?"

Me: "Maybe. What is it about?"

Colleague: "I was looking at X and had a question."

Me: "I can meet with ..."

Why not cut the chase here and start with "I was looking at X and had a question, do you have a minute?"

I almost never do have a minute without notice but I'm happy to find a few minutes to give people. I don't like having to play this 21-questions game with people to find out what they need, though. It really irks me.

Re:Please don't be spooky by IanCal on Saturday September 17, 2022 @12:01PM (#32878585)
It really depends on the person.

Some people you can say you have a question and it'll occupy their mind not knowing what it is.

Some people can happily just wait until the actual question comes through, but once it does that's the thing they're thinking of.

"Do you have a minute" and "Do you have a minute, I've an issue with X" have problems, but for different people.

Re:Please don't be spooky by IanCal on Friday September 16, 2022 @01:58PM (#32869744)
I can expand on this more later but neither myself nor the OP have put it as some general rule. I don't see any implication that it should be done everywhere to everyone.

I benefit from quick realtime comms too, and understand people are different (that's the main thrust of my comment). I don't know if others realise just how unproductive it can be for some of these styles of messages though.