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Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by gpm on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @01:53PM (#32840733)
Eh, it depends on who "you" are. I'm pretty sure the USAF can use them on all seven continents. Meanwhile I, not having a contract, can't use them on any continent.
Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by derefr on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:56PM (#32842520)
Do you mean to say that the USAF can use devices that cause arbitrary interference on frequency bands that the country they're operating in hasn't reserved for such uses, and said countries tolerate that?

Those countries' poor radio engineers...

Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by gpm on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @04:19PM (#32842793)
Uh, yes. The USAF uses electronic warfare systems that don't just accidentally cause such interference, but do so intentionally. Much like every other major military.

Which isn't to say that they would operate those systems (or starlink) in peacetime without the approval of the host country, just that they can use those systems at any time... While I don't know for a fact that SpaceX has left the decision on where to use starlink up to them, I'm pretty sure that would be the case.

Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by derefr on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:22PM (#32844846)
I was referring more to countries that host US military bases / allow USAF flyover in peacetime, and which aren't currently considered Starlink-enabled. The Philippines, for example.

> Which isn't to say that they would operate those systems (or starlink) in peacetime without the approval of the host country

To the original point, Starlink wouldn't be claiming that "Starlink is now on all seven continents" unless somebody (e.g. the USAF) was at least conducting connectivity tests in these countries, if not putting Starlink into active use — which would, again, be much to the chagrin of local RF engineers, who had.

Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by ashwagary on Thursday September 15, 2022 @01:58AM (#32847677)
>>Starlink wouldn't be claiming that "Starlink is now on all seven continents" unless somebody (e.g. the USAF) was at least conducting connectivity tests in these countries, if not putting Starlink into active use

Elon's history of marketing says otherwise.

Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by womod on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @05:10PM (#32843404)
I think the radio engineers suffer at the hands of poorly-shielded switch-mode power supplies and inadvertent spark-gap transmitters caused by aging powerline infrastructure more than anything else.
Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by cronix on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @04:18PM (#32842785)
The satellites are already there, like gps satellites are already there. I'm assuming they're transmitting whether or not people on the ground have connection or whether or not the government "approves" it.
Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by derefr on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:13PM (#32844744)
MIMO antennas aren't transmitting in your direction unless you get their attention by transmitting in theirs. Also, they might be transmitting by default with barely-enough power, in a narrow band, in frequencies everyone generally agrees to not use for anything important; but once you establish a circuit with them, they could start transmitting in your particular direction with more power, in wider bandwidth, or in more-likely-to-be-reserved frequencies.
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Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by samatman on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:12PM (#32840980)
You come across quite poorly in this exchange.
Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by capableweb on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:33PM (#32841306)
Might be so. Guess it seemed obvious to me that we're talking past each other if one is talking about "What's available for consumers today" vs "What the military in the US has access to", but I digress.
Re:Starlink is now on all seven continents, enabled by its s... by frumper on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:15PM (#32841026)
If someone can use it on all 7 continents, I'd say that it's available to use on all 7 continents. If you can't use it on all 7, I suggest you keep offering more money until you can.