Re:Carbon footprint of unwanted data use by smartphones
by mellavora on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:22PM
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(see electric cars^h^h^h^hbikes).
There, fixed it for you.
Re:Carbon footprint of unwanted data use by smartphones
by _carbyau_ on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @09:02PM
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Given how many cars exist globally, I do wonder where 100's of Kgs of batteries per car is going to come from.
A bike requires much less and indeed most people could get by with one so I'd like to see more of this too. But it doesn't cater to the lowest common denominator of population use cases, it doesn't signal wealth, and convenience is king. So I don't think it will come about.
Re:Carbon footprint of unwanted data use by smartphones
by jeffbee on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:21PM
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Datacenter energy usage is irrelevant to our global situation. A large cloud datacenter uses a similar amount of power as 1 large aircraft. All U.S. datacenters combined consumed about 1% of U.S. electric power, meaning they constitute much less than 1% of all energy demand. And despite the fact that cloud capacity has exploded in the last 10 years, electric power consumption of datacenters has barely increased, because the cloud is so dramatically more efficient than other datacenters.
Re:Carbon footprint of unwanted data use by smartphones
by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:31PM
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source? Bitcoin network allegedly uses as much electricity as Argentina based on headlines (and... those are headlines). Yes that's global, but still.
Re:Carbon footprint of unwanted data use by smartphones
by ElevenLathe on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:22PM
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I'm not sure of the source (as I'm not the parent), but I wouldn't classify crypto farms as "datacenters". They have very low needs in terms of bandwidth and reliability. Many of them are barns on consumer ISP connections filled with bare mobos sitting on pieces of cardboard, or other similar arrangements that are presumably OK given the economics of crypto, but wouldn't be sellable even as cloud compute for most purposes in the current market (it might be OK for batch-type stuff that doesn't involve tons of transfer -- some kinds of scientific workloads like Folding@Home maybe?).
Honestly, the only way forward to really fight climate change is to decouple carbon from power generation.
Everything else is just wasting time re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
That means we need to be all in on zero emissions power generation (wind, solar, hydro, nuclear) as well as conversion of combustion engines to electric (see electric cars).