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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:19PM (#32832960)
Would you rather have a nurse who was a vaccine skeptic or no nurse? Honestly asking.
Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by smileysteve on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:47PM (#32833124)
a 75 year old family member was prescribed Ivermectin for light Covid. I would rather no doctor. And family member has decided to seek a different doctor. Literally added a symptom.
Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @06:39AM (#32835332)
Doctors and nurses are two different jobs.
Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by KerrAvon on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @01:59AM (#32833747)
Would you rather have a fireman who used a firehouse connected to a water source or a water hose skeptic who insisted on using an empty bucket?
Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:17AM (#32835601)
That's a bad metaphor, given that the point in question (vaccination) isn't a treatment (water) at the time of severe infection.

Someone can simultaneously (a) be trained in critical care & (b) be a vaccine skeptic.

It's analogous to meteorologists who don't believe in climate change: yes, it's kooky, but it's also not the job they're doing.

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by scarface74 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @05:31AM (#32834933)
No nurse. What other kind of bad advice will they give me?
Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:18AM (#32835612)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there exist people who are vaccine skeptics and are trained to a higher skill in life support than I am.

I try not to judge people completely based on a single characteristic.

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by scarface74 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:28AM (#32835693)
That makes it worse not better. If my wife were pregnant, I also wouldn’t have her go to a doctor who “didn’t believe in abortion” under any circumstances even if her life were in danger.
Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:36AM (#32835746)
That's a strawman, because it's a directly impactful choice at the time of care.

How does a person's personal vaccination status, ceterus paribus, affect the care you're likely to receive?

Outside of, you know, directly asking them "Should I get vaccinated?" and being told "I wouldn't"?

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by pc86 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @08:46AM (#32836389)
> How does a person's personal vaccination status affect the care you're likely to receive?

Because it shows that they're not intellectually capable of making good medical decisions. The risk that the other medical decisions they will make are equally bad despite all evidence to the contrary increases.

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @08:55AM (#32836481)
As far as I've met people, there are three groups:

- Those who believe that anyone who doesn't vaccinate "isn't intellectually capable of making good medical decisions"

- Those who are opposed to vaccination because they believe in conspiracy theories

- Those who are are either pro- or anti- vaccination, but realize it's a complicated issue, with evidence-supported pros and cons, that other humans of reasonable intelligence can have different opinions than themselves about

Unfortunately, the first two groups tend to be the loudest and most religious about it.

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by scarface74 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @10:16AM (#32837549)
Either way, just like I wouldn’t want a religious zealot who has convictions about performing an abortion while my wife is laying their bleeding, I wouldn’t trust the judgement of an anti-vaxxer.

One of my best friends who lived in Seattle whose wife did have complications during pregnancy. He told his doctor that in no uncertain terms if they had to make a choice between his wife and his unborn son, to save his wife’s life. They had to perform a c section early to save his wife. His son is healthy and thriving and he had a vasectomy soon after their child was born to not risk another pregnancy and they adopted a child.

He said in today’s climate. If he had lived in a state like Texas, he would have found another job and moved.

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:01AM (#32838223)
As the product of a reproductive therapy that certain people at one time would have banned, I can sympathize.

To me the big difference is whether they're "I should not be vaccinated" or "Everyone should not be vaccinated." The former doesn't always mean belief in the latter.

So I look at someone being unvaccinated more like choosing to wear a spinning propeller hat to work every day... it's weird, and it makes me judge you, but it doesn't necessarily impact your work.

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by scarface74 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:40AM (#32838735)
As a health care professional, you choosing to be anti-vaxxer tells me a lot about your judgment in the field I’m seeking your expert advice and it probably means that you don’t care about coming to work with Covid and getting other people sick.

If you’re an anti vaxxer coworker, whatever. Your judgment about the vaccine doesn’t affect their ability to write good code. But if they were an Oracle fan…

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:27PM (#32842081)
That's a lot of assumptions about a person...