Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many people quitting?

Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by hollywood_court on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:18PM (#32832173)

I could not imagine being a nurse or a teacher in the US right now. I wish they realized that they have the leverage and can go on strike. I imagine that's difficult for many of them as they most certainly need the income. A rock and a hard place. I always smile when I read about a nurse or teacher switching to a completely different career field and finding themselves more content.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by mud_dauber on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:29PM (#32832253)

My wife (ER/ICU nursing) walked away from a 25 yr career. She ended up in the kitchen of an upscale grocery store - still working with her hands for 1/3 the salary. (Granted, we could withstand the financial hit.)

She would still come home bone-tired after being on her feet for a shift - but much more interested in the work. Not having to deal with the public was another big benefit -the epidemic turned too many people into **holes.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:50PM (#32832755)

Interesting factoid: "computer programmer" + "nurse" are one of the most common spousal profession pairings. Per a recent HN link/study.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by another2another on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @08:51AM (#32836440)

Well I'm a data point then, also another colleague.

But despite our respective professions, I still get ignored when I'm sick, and she can fix her own iTunes problems 'cos I just don't have a clue.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by goodpoint on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:31AM (#32838620)

Not according to https://flowingdata.com/2021/05/26/jobs-that-marry-together/

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ask_b123 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:16PM (#32832941)

Could you link to the thread please?

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by sudom82 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:02PM (#32832832)

Do you have a link to said study?

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:16PM (#32832933)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29003986

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by 29083011397778 on Friday September 16, 2022 @08:26AM (#32865189)

I've put in a few classifications my job could fall under, and gotten RN for at least two. Perhaps there's just more nurses than people assume or realise?

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by sudom82 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @11:34PM (#32846657)

Thanks, appreciate it!

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by blarg1 on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @05:50AM (#32835043)

That's my parents :)

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by aaaaaaaaata on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:03PM (#32832840)

Anyone have a link?

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by heavyset_go on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:37PM (#32832294)

It's sometimes illegal for teachers to even go on strike. My area had an incident where striking teachers were arrested and taken to jail.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by folli on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:49PM (#32832369)

"The floggings will continue until moral improves"

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by tdeck on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:26AM (#32833899)

Sometimes they win demands even when the strike is illegal. The 2018 West Virginia teacher's strike turned into a wildcat (unauthorized) strike but that didn't stop them from winning a 5% pay raise. It does depend a lot on community support and sympathy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_West_Virginia_teachers%...

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:21PM (#32842000)

Some states it's just illegal for teachers to strike at all, wildcat or not, or even to organize with unions.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by tdeck on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @04:24PM (#32842854)

A wildcat strike is always illegal in the US. Organizing a union isn't illegal in any state, it's about whether the union gets official recognition and official bargaining rights. My point was that it's possible to win even if you don't have those things.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by wongarsu on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @04:01AM (#32834423)

In jail they won't come to work either. That sounds more like a scare tactic

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:23PM (#32842023)

It's less of a scare tactic and more of a way to punish and prevent teachers from organizing in the first place.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:53AM (#32834046)

They don't need to go on strike if there's an alternative employer available. They just need to quit. Going on strike turns these things from being focused on bad managers to focusing on intransigent employees. Leaving means the management needs fixing or changing.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by EFreethought on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @07:00AM (#32835466)

I am not in nursing, but from what I have seen in corporate America: even when there is a lot of churn, bad managers always think everybody else is the problem.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by robertlagrant on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @08:33AM (#32836239)

Of course. But they don't assess themselves :)

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by heavyset_go on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @03:24PM (#32842053)

In my experience, management tends to protect themselves and go up to bat for each other, especially when things can be blamed on their subordinates.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by robertlagrant on Friday September 16, 2022 @04:26AM (#32863586)

This isn't about blame, though. Even if for some reason you feel the need to care about blame passed around in a company after you've left, I would say it's still worse to strike when you can leave.

Unless you're suggesting that being blamed by management is intrinsically important and going on strike is going to be less blamed by management? I would just disagree with every aspect of that statement.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by gorbachev on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @04:47AM (#32834674)

It's everywhere.

The Government in my country is working on a law prohibiting nurses from striking for better working conditions (incl. more staffing) and better pay. Most countries have laws already to ensure adequate staffing for emergency personnel, but this is going way beyond those type of laws.

That's gonna work awesome once all the nurses start quitting. I hope they do.

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Re:Ask HN: What are examples of companies dying due to many ... by solarmist on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @01:59AM (#32833755)

Didn’t the nation’s largest ever healthcare strike start today in MN?

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