Show HN: IPDetective – An API for IP bot detection

Re:Show HN: IPDetective – An API for IP bot detection by azalemeth on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @07:48PM (#32831578)

I have to say, I really, really hate IPv4-based bot detection. If you end up on an IP that is labelled erroneously as "bad", your life becomes a gCaptcha hell for no real reason – my cable ISP does cGNAT and I have no control over it and frequently end up being blacklisted. I tend to use a variety of always-on VPNs to both avoid censorship and try to improve this – I can pick different endpoints.

VPN usage is increasingly common by consumers and in my country I've seen ads for it in places ranging from Mozilla in my browser to NordVPN on my TV. There's massive overshare of IPv4 addresses and it's really, really annoying to find out that you can't use a service because you're on a naughty list. I feel like yelling "I am a customer and want to buy something!" on occasion – the net result is I go elsewhere.

Stopping abuse and bot detection is one thing. Banning people for something they might have literally no control over is quite another.

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Re:Show HN: IPDetective – An API for IP bot detection by AndrewCopeland on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:26PM (#32832603)

I would agree with everything you are saying. I did not start this service for the sake of stopping actual people from using certain websites. I started this service to mitigate/detect bot abuse of consumer applications.

I think it really is dependent on the consumer application. But mentioned by some other folks is to add the ability to have IP exceptions, essentially an allow list, which I am in favor of. This brings up an entirely different issue, which is identifying the user as legitimate.

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