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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by logic_beats_pro on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:37AM (#32824837)
As you see in the article, this is a mathematical model which indicates vaccines saved 20,000,000 lives. It is completely unprovable and only serves as a nice sounding talking point.

I also could claim 20,000,000 lives were saved by natural immunity. Or vitamin D from sunshine. Or the placebo effect.

All of those mentioned are also not provable.

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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by blackbear_ on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:49AM (#32824983)
Do you have specific reasons not to believe the model and/or data in that article, beyond "all models are wrong by definition"?
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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by throwaway4aday on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:01AM (#32825182)
A model is a prediction, nothing more. It can be a correct prediction but only after being verified by comparison with reality.
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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by mrguyorama on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @01:24PM (#32827406)
Show where this model disagrees with reality.
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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by logic_beats_pro on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:22PM (#32841133)
The problem is there is no way to accurately tell if the vaccine saved a single life, let alone 20 million
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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by ttpphd on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @02:36PM (#32828463)
"It is completely unprovable"

You have no idea what you are talking about or how empiricism works. It's laughable.

The best data in the world tells us that 20 million lives were saved. Saying "No it didn't" is not an impressive or persuasive response.

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Re:Pre-exposure to mRNA-LNP inhibits adaptive immune respons... by logic_beats_pro on Wednesday September 14, 2022 @02:23PM (#32841159)
Prove it then... not even the 20 million but just a single death saved because of the vaccine. You cannot. It's not a rip on you, nobody can. Hence it's not provable.

If anyone could, they would have already and wouldn't have to resort to nonsense theoretical computer models.

VERY interested in your attempt though gets out popcorn

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