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Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by matsemann on Monday September 12, 2022 @03:51PM (#32815908)
Dedicated bike infrastructure is good, because if more people cycle it leaves more room for those disabled that need their car. So being so anxious about providing for them, you surely agree that we should do that and also ban other cars from the roads to make it even easier for them. Right?
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Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by Spivak on Monday September 12, 2022 @07:01PM (#32818433)
That “if more people cycle” is carrying a lot of weight and even accepting the premise it’s still no because more road and more cyclists on them makes more room for cars. Bikes on the road condense but a dedicated lane is a fixed size whether it’s utilized or not.

dae if you really cared about the disabled you would hunt the abled for sport isn’t an argument. Providing for the disabled is making accommodations. Blanketing a city with dedicated infrastructure that in practice is inaccessible to people who aren’t young, somewhat in shape, and abled is silly — that takes away space from the abled. And trust me I’m not weaponizing the disabled, it’s entirely selfish of me because with 100% certainty in my lifetime I will be disabled temporarily from injury and permanently from age.

Ban cars entirely for all I care, I’ll fully support you turning city centers into pedestrian only areas with scooters and small electric golf carts for those limited mobility. Even in a world entirely without cars bikes lanes are still dumb.

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Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by matsemann on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @04:27AM (#32821873)
> Even in a world entirely without cars bikes lanes are still dumb.

The bicycle hate runs deep. Why?

Dedicated bike infrastructure also reduces conflicts with pedestrians. Often better to have two separate ways, than one big with everyone intermingled. If you are unable to even comprehend that, I question your bias in this.

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