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Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by kqr on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:15PM (#32813416)
All three of fat, old, and disabled can use bikes. Adapted to their condition, of course; tricycle-type configurations are often a good adaptation in cases like that.
Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by forgotusername6 on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:19PM (#32813497)
Not unless that bike also includes an engine. You exclude so many people who are incapable of propelling themselves around, let alone people who can't see well enough or lack the cognitive ability to navigate themselves
Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by tomjakubowski on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:27PM (#32813657)
> let alone people who can't see well enough or lack the cognitive ability to navigate themselves

they aren't driving themselves either so what is your point? bicycles with passenger seats exist, as do buses and trains (and, of course, bicycles with motors)

Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by forgotusername6 on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:47PM (#32814055)
The original conversation was around self driving cars. Self driving cars give freedom to people who can't drive themselves in a way that bikes never will. They also offer things above public transport, namely privacy, security, autonomy.
Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by tomjakubowski on Monday September 12, 2022 @05:00PM (#32816895)
all for self-driving whatever to help the disabled achieve autonomy, but there is no reason to limit self-driving to enormous multi-ton vehicles
Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by kqr on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:25PM (#32813619)
There are arm-propelled bicycles (or more specifically, drivetrains that let wheelchair users propel themselves with their arms as though they are on a bicycle).

If you're going into "paraplegic and/or legally blind" as your idea of people that can't get around by bicycle, you will find that most people in public gatherings are just fine going around by bike.

Re:Bikes, not self driving cars, are the technological gatew... by unusualmonkey on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:30PM (#32813723)
Bikes can include engines, sounds like you've described a solution.

If people can't see or think well enough to navigate on a bike... then cars etc. aren't the solution either. Sounds like they'd be passengers on bikes rather than riders.