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Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by nojito on Monday September 12, 2022 @11:32AM (#32811866)
This is absolute nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPogdNafgic

Apple has the led the conversation on privacy far before anyone else was. I remember them get vilified from sharing their stance 10 years ago.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by alexb_ on Monday September 12, 2022 @11:37AM (#32811937)
>Apple has the led the conversation on privacy far before anyone else was.

So they can make more money by selling access to a userbase they withhold from all other advertisers. The notion that Apple cares about anything other than the money-printing ability of their phone users is clearly and obviously wrong.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by pwinnski on Monday September 12, 2022 @12:48PM (#32812986)
They've faced down several angry groups of shareholders that demonstrate you are incorrect. Apple as a company has a few values that reduce potential profits, and refuse to violate them.

They should probably have more such values, but they definitely "care" about some things other than printing money.

I'm all on board the Cynicism Express, but you've gotten on the wrong track here. Apple can be a monster for many, many reasons while still operating based on principles of user privacy.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by kennend3 on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:06PM (#32813263)
This would disagree with you: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/06/technology/apple-ads.html

Why does Apple want to sell more ads?

Because money.

It’s incredibly profitable for Apple to sell ads when people search the iPhone App Store for fitness apps or read articles in the Apple News app.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by pwinnski on Monday September 12, 2022 @01:25PM (#32813614)
I am not seeing where I suggested that Apple doesn't want to sell more ads, or that they don't care about money.

Yes, it's profitable for Apple to sell ads. They tried once before and failed because they refused to violate personal privacy for ad targeting. It is possible to sell fitness ads when people search for fitness apps, or health ads on articles about health subjects, without violating personal privacy. People are concerned about whether Apple will compromise long-held values because Facebook and Google have worked to pretend there's no difference between selling context-aware ads and selling privacy-invading user-tracking ads. There is a difference, though.

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by cruano on Monday September 12, 2022 @04:23PM (#32816373)
Yes, but they care about the long-term money-printing ability of the whole ecosystem, and reputation can very clearly hurt that e.g. Facebook
Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by lioeters on Monday September 12, 2022 @11:38AM (#32811942)
> Apple spies on its users, and helps others spy on them.

https://stallman.org/apple.html#spying

Re:Apple’s next big thing: A business model change by jshier on Monday September 12, 2022 @12:06PM (#32812398)
Assertions without evidence can be rejected out of hand.