Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by pxlpshr on Thursday October 09, 2008 @04:20PM
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I'm not going to make a comment on whether or not FB can be profitable... but here is some doom and gloom comedy if you believe we're in a monsoon of a shit storm:
Employers will cut staff, trim the fat, and leave only the super productive. Businesses will put a stop on productivity leaks, this means the 18-20 people on my FB buddy list (99% of which have graduated) at 1pm on a Thursday will have to call it quits, or lose their job.
College students will be faced with a credit squeeze, halt their $30-40 a month @home internet and return to using school provided connectivity, making them a far less connected market.
Fb traffic declines, advertising expenditures are cut... Fb and Pets.com become soul mates.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by josefresco on Thursday October 09, 2008 @07:02PM
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OR... because the job market is in the crapper, kids will extend their college visits, giving them several more years to waste networking on sites like FB, thereby keeping FB's valuation high and their profits coming when the markets rebound just in time for their "revenue plan"
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by nickb on Thursday October 09, 2008 @05:28PM
(#328297)
We're now in a recession and branding budgets are almost always the first things that big companies cut. This is Facebook's bread & butter. Facebook will need to make some heavy cuts if they plan on searching for another three years.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by anamax on Thursday October 09, 2008 @05:42PM
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> We're now in a recession and branding budgets are almost always the first things that big companies cut.
Does/will Coke cut its branding budget?
I think that there are very few companies with valuable brands. (Sony might have one, but how many people buy something because it says Pioneer on the box?) The rest may have some name recognition, but that doesn't move much product.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by nickb on Thursday October 09, 2008 @07:26PM
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> Does/will Coke cut its branding budget?
Yes, of course. They all do. When you have less demand and people have less disposable income, you tend to put more money into measurable advertising that can directly impact the bottom line. I think you'll agree that Coke's brand is safe and as Buffett says, the moat is very, very wide indeed so to them, cutting branding budget will not show any impact for at least 2-3 quarters.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by foulmouthboy on Friday October 10, 2008 @01:43AM
(#328622)
Current business plan (apparently only slightly facetious):
1. Get everybody on Facebook
2. Create a huge map detailing how everybody relates to everybody else.
3. ????
4. Profit
I always figured that there were smarter people than me working on step 3, but maybe there weren't.
Maps of the non-social kind are useful because they can be bought and used to get to places you've never been to. Maps of the social kind are apparently useless because everybody wants their privacy and you're basically left with a map telling you where you are and what's within two steps walking distance.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by akd on Friday October 10, 2008 @05:07AM
(#328679)
Why do you say that? Do you think people are going to lose interest in the things they do on Facebook, or do you think a new competitor is going to provide a product sufficiently better than Facebook to take over the market?
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by jonknee on Thursday October 09, 2008 @04:54PM
(#328252)
There are few people that I would rather see fall into a fiery downfall of fail more than Zuckerberg. Maybe he'll wise up and take the cash before it's too late.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by ROFISH on Thursday October 09, 2008 @06:19PM
(#328333)
Zuckerburg and Facebook as a business might fail, but it's still used by MILLIONS of college students all over. If Zuckerburg can't make a business out of millions of eyeballs, somebody will buy their husk of an indebted corpse and take a shot at it.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by thinkcomp on Thursday October 09, 2008 @08:46PM
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Two points:
A) Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
B) The point of my posting the link wasn't to remind anyone of the personal history. It was that as a business decision, Facebook not accepting Yahoo's buyout offer looked brilliant in 2006 and 2007, but now looks questionable (at best). Who knows what Yahoo can or can't afford at this point, let alone $100 per user.
Re:Zuckerberg: Facebook Will Have A Business Plan In Three Y...
by unalone on Thursday October 09, 2008 @08:47PM
(#328441)
I think Zuckerberg is pretty adamantly against selling. Money or no money, he's currently got the keys to the one web site that every college student is coming to rely on. That gives him a lot of power, and it gives him a lot of leeway with trying to make money. So, as of right now, he's still in a pretty good position.
Employers will cut staff, trim the fat, and leave only the super productive. Businesses will put a stop on productivity leaks, this means the 18-20 people on my FB buddy list (99% of which have graduated) at 1pm on a Thursday will have to call it quits, or lose their job.
College students will be faced with a credit squeeze, halt their $30-40 a month @home internet and return to using school provided connectivity, making them a far less connected market.
Fb traffic declines, advertising expenditures are cut... Fb and Pets.com become soul mates.
Just kidding... :)
Does/will Coke cut its branding budget?
I think that there are very few companies with valuable brands. (Sony might have one, but how many people buy something because it says Pioneer on the box?) The rest may have some name recognition, but that doesn't move much product.
Yes, of course. They all do. When you have less demand and people have less disposable income, you tend to put more money into measurable advertising that can directly impact the bottom line. I think you'll agree that Coke's brand is safe and as Buffett says, the moat is very, very wide indeed so to them, cutting branding budget will not show any impact for at least 2-3 quarters.
"In three years from now we have to figure out what the optimum model is."
There is a difference between being not profitable, and being optimally profitable.
*started with the wrong markup
Do I have to wait 3 years for that to work?
1. Get everybody on Facebook 2. Create a huge map detailing how everybody relates to everybody else. 3. ???? 4. Profit
I always figured that there were smarter people than me working on step 3, but maybe there weren't.
Maps of the non-social kind are useful because they can be bought and used to get to places you've never been to. Maps of the social kind are apparently useless because everybody wants their privacy and you're basically left with a map telling you where you are and what's within two steps walking distance.
Yay for the economic crisis.
http://www.aarongreenspan.com/letter
A) Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
B) The point of my posting the link wasn't to remind anyone of the personal history. It was that as a business decision, Facebook not accepting Yahoo's buyout offer looked brilliant in 2006 and 2007, but now looks questionable (at best). Who knows what Yahoo can or can't afford at this point, let alone $100 per user.