It's a valid concern taken to such extreme that it's used as a political slogan anyone can hide behind and forces laymen to pick a side, it's the tech equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "I can't hear you! Bitcoin causes climate change!" If you hate climate change, you MUST hate Bitcoin or you're an hypocrite.
The discourse has fallen off a cliff on the side of maximalists and cryptohaters alike. It's just idiots shouting at each other and probably one of the biggest intellectual voids on HN today: there is no intelligent discussion about crypto that can be made in here since 2018 or so when they all decided to pick a side and turn their brains off.
Whatever happened to "intellectual curiosity" and hacker spirit? Sign of the times I guess.
The other is wishing the destruction of the builders goal (and at times the builders themselves for the most extreme "cultists")... seems like a fundamental difference.
It is no different or delusional to the crypto maximalists also parroting their alternative belief that all cryptocurrencies and projects will replace the current financial system.
Whether if one is long and the other is short is beside the point since you after the 'end' of crypto which should have happened a long time ago. Both of these absolutist camps are unrealistic in their ultimate end goals.
The only absolute is that there is none. Only some cryptocurrencies and projects will survive, and not all of them will.