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Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by diimdeep on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:05PM (#32769400)
It is way less efficient to consume HN with this design, so I won't use it.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by sjdz on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:35PM (#32769966)
There's some overhead, but not much. It basically just parses the underlying HTML as soon as it's loaded, then redraws it with added features.

Also no heavy frameworks used, just basic hand-coded JS + jquery + a few helper libraries (luxon for dates etc)

Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by topaz0 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:08PM (#32771354)
The post was about efficiency for the user, not for the computer.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by sjdz on Friday September 09, 2022 @04:05AM (#32776621)
Yeah I missed that, first thought was efficient performance!
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by xemdetia on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:41PM (#32770072)
I agree, it's a lot harder to logically/visually move through comments. The grey-black-black-with-underlines is a lot easier to read then the bold-black/black/thin-hl. It's kind of why I hate the new reddit style too.

I also don't like having to hover to see the icons for reply. Why are you hiding the parent/context buttons for navigation in a dot-dot-dot menu when you drill into a comment chain? Where's prev/next? Upvote/Downvote/hover UI covers stuff, and no alt tags anywhere to be seen.

Also why does it need perms to firebase and extensionpay again?

It just feels clunky even as a redesign.

Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by syastrov on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:19PM (#32770651)
I think there’s a trend to replace applications having information-dense designs with all actions at your fingertips with ones that add so much padding that you can only see a little bit of information at a time and in order to perform any action, you have to hover or click several times.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by em-bee on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:34PM (#32770867)
yes, and i find it disturbing. either a feature is there, then it should be visible at all times, or it should be off completely. while i am reading my eyes are tracking the locations of those buttons/links so that i can quickly move the mouse to use them. if they are hidden that slows me down and gets in the way. it makes sense on small screen like mobile where it is better to use the space to show more content and have actions hidden behind a menu, but not on the desktop.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by D_Joni on Thursday September 08, 2022 @05:38PM (#32772436)
https://hackrnews-dj.netlify.app Have you tried to use this HN clone? It is a SPA, but it has very similar UI to the original site, and it has some extra features added (dark an modern UI, bookmarking with highliting new comments, searching through comments, navigating, root comment collapsing in any child comment, and a few other). It is also optimized for desktop and mobile reading, and very readable.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by sjdz on Friday September 09, 2022 @04:13AM (#32776683)
- Good point, I'll add a setting in the next update to always show icons.

- Parent / context are in the menu just to keep the design clean. But I understand that's not what everyone wants, so I will add a setting to show these with the other icons, instead of in the menu.

- Prev / next are moved to the "control pad" (pro feature), but my intention is for the free version to support all current HN features, so I will add those back in the next update.

- The permission to firebase is to access the HN API [1] to grab user profile info etc. The other is for the pro upgrade using ExtPay [2]

[1] https://github.com/HackerNews/API

[2] https://github.com/glench/ExtPay

Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by skunkworker on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:10PM (#32769490)
For right now I'm back to using the Hacker News enhancement suite, it builds on top of the compact ui.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by em-bee on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:35PM (#32770883)
could you link to that please?
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by jzelinskie on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:45PM (#32771026)
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by jtokoph on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:09PM (#32769479)
Why is it way less efficient?
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by em-bee on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:38PM (#32770922)
because it hides important UI elements. in particular prev and next which i use frequently are completely missing. that alone forced me to turn off the extension after just a few minutes, because unfortunately it made pages very difficult to navigate.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by sjdz on Thursday September 08, 2022 @05:15PM (#32772180)
Good point, I'll add prev / next back in the next update. They've been moved to the "control pad" (pro feature) in the extension, but my intention is for the free version to support all current HN features.
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by markeibes on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:22PM (#32769699)
It's not of course
Re:Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Hacker News by daqnal on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:27PM (#32769821)
I'd day there is a balance between form and function when it comes to websites, and I'd rather stare at a nice looking slightly less efficient webpage rather than an ugly but more efficient one.