Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by wolframhempel on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:15AM
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I don't really understand why one would make it a line? If the objective is walkability, wouldn't it make more sense to arrange apartments in a square or - if you want to go 3D - a cube to minimize distance between occupants and shops etc?
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Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by sybercecurity on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:29AM
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I think the assumption would be you could walk around your neighborhood portion, then take the train/mass transit to further away. Basically a city built along a train line.
Also seems like a good way to control a large population. Can't have that large of a group gather and a small force can effectively cut the city in two (or more) segments. If you shut down the train system people can't go too far to other parts of the city. I imagine this was also a consideration.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by Izkata on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:44AM
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> I think the assumption would be you could walk around your neighborhood portion, then take the train/mass transit to further away. Basically a city built along a train line.
They state this explicitly in the 2-minute intro video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0kz5vEqdaSc
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by wsc981 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:24AM
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Regarding controlling the population: to me it seems like one large prison. I wouldn’t want to live in such a place.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by Arnt on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:27AM
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I think the argument is that the long-distance transport needs no curves so it run faster.
But it's a sham. They'll never get 25% of the country's population into one building. It's just a PR exercise, a concept car if you will.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by bombcar on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:34AM
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some of the architecture books have talked about it - they theorize the perfect city is about two miles wide and indefinitely long. You run a rail line down the middle (run four, local lines, express; or six and have a middle distance one) and now everyone by definition is about a mile or two from a station and a mile or less from farmland/extreme rural areas.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by ianai on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:55AM
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Sounds more like a basic unit of understanding or modeling a larger system than an actual ideal. Like a single leg of a hub and spoke flight system.
Econ has a similar concept for competition , iirc, “Hotellings line”.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by bombcar on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:54AM
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The series of books of which A Pattern Language [253] is part of strongly argues for it as an ideal and a design principle, not just as a spherical cow.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by Tijdreiziger on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:21AM
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The Dutch town of Almere was, more or less, built along a rail line. Every neighborhood has its own station.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by ls15 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:24AM
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Why square if you can have a circle?
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by netsharc on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:24AM
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If it were in the middle of a forest, you'd just be a minute's walk away from nature... Maybe MBS' next fantasy is the reforestation of the desert.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by salt-thrower on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:39AM
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Good luck with that! Though it might be worth trying, as the desert will be even more inhospitable than it already is in the years to come.
Re:Nine million people in city 170km long; is world ready fo...
by programmer_dude on Thursday September 08, 2022 @08:31AM
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These other shapes will need taller walls to keep the desert sand out.