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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by tonyhb on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @07:13PM (#32758493)
Apple's always-on pingback no matter where you go in the globe, even if you disable cell networks. I do believe they care about privacy, though if you look at features like this it's easy to see that they can be worse than Google if they wanted.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by wyattjoh on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @07:57PM (#32759026)
Except this (currently) requires users to point their phone at a satellite so it can connect and transmit, with clear line of site of the sky. It seems it will be more likely something you'd do when you get to your "campsite" and want friends/family to know where you are located.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by s0rce on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:44PM (#32760482)
edit: I didn't realize this will apparently be required due to the antenna design in the iPhone, seems very cumbersome, you can't easily see where the satellites are...

You don't really need to point it, at least with my inreach if its near the top of my pack and I'm not in a canyon or something I can get a message out.

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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by Jtsummers on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:33PM (#32760854)
> you can't easily see where the satellites are...

Which is why when you're using it they guide you on how to orient the phone (per their released info so far, we'll have actual user reports in a few weeks).

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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by Scoundreller on Thursday September 08, 2022 @12:26AM (#32761176)
I look forward to whatever video game they create where you get the rescue points for holding your phone in the right orientation.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by saghm on Thursday September 08, 2022 @02:21AM (#32761886)
And if you don't, it presumably says "you're holding it wrong!"
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by zikduruqe on Friday September 09, 2022 @11:00AM (#32780060)
Your in reach uses 1.6 GHz at 31.5 dBm for one of the bands and 2.4 GHz at 5 dBm for the other.

That's 1.412538 watts versus 0.003162 watts... hence why you can just leave it in your pack.

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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by stubish on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @09:57PM (#32760077)
That limitation will have to be fixed before this accounts for 85% of a satellite network's capacity.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by dymk on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @07:56PM (#32759022)
Airplane mode.

Of course if you don’t trust that, you shouldn’t be buying an Apple product anyways. They could ship an always on microphone streaming to their servers if they wanted to. But we trust that they won’t.

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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by adolph on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @09:19PM (#32759776)
Faraday bag or turned off in a freezer “stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by usefulcat on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:48PM (#32760945) 

  s/freezer/bottom of a locked filing cabinet/
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by adolph on Thursday September 08, 2022 @10:00AM (#32765616)
Edward J. Snowden insisted that a group of lawyers advising him in the Chinese territory “hide their cellphones in the refrigerator of the home where he was staying, to block any eavesdropping,”

https://archive.nytimes.com/thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...

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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by alasdair_ on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:48PM (#32759551)
Find my works even if the iphone is turned off - does airplane mode stop this?
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by artificial on Thursday September 08, 2022 @12:32AM (#32761202)
Since we can't remove batteries I know a mylar Cheetos snack bag does the trick.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by mburee on Friday September 09, 2022 @03:00AM (#32776155)
https://www.mattblaze.org/blog/faraday/

Make of that what you want

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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by dwaite on Thursday September 08, 2022 @11:52AM (#32767382)
The toggles to turn off this feature (as well as Find my in general) do stop this.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by ErneX on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:24AM (#32762392)
That’s opt-in though.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by zarriak on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:39PM (#32759468)
I agree with your sentiment but this seemed in the keynote to be something you had to do on purpose and not like the normal always on find my.
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Re:Globalstar SEC filing, Apple to use 85% of its satellite ... by SergeAx on Saturday September 10, 2022 @04:32AM (#32788900)
Correction: if they shareholders wanted.
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