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Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:56PM (#32755868)
> Does the target iPhone user in the US just not travel?

AT&T charges me $10/day up to $100/month for unlimited calls, texting, and data while overseas, virtually anywhere in the world. That's low enough I can't be bothered to go to the trouble of SIM purchase, swapping, and giving everyone my temporary number on arrival.

Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by paxys on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:01PM (#32755935)
Last time I was in India I paid $3.75 for an unlimited everything 4G plan for a month. I guess the definition of "low enough" can vary.
Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:14PM (#32756139)
The average cost of a cell phone plan in the US is over $100/month, so yes.
Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by paxys on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:04PM (#32756837)
Says who? Unlimited plans from all major carriers top off at $70-80/mo. If you have multiple lines the per line cost is cheaper still (like $50/mo). Plans with data caps, discount carriers and MVNOs all go as low as $30/mo.

If you are paying $100+ for a cell phone plan in the US today you are being taken for a ride.

Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:18PM (#32757046)
> Unlimited plans from all major carriers top off at $70-80/mo.

Until you add the $20-30 in taxes and fees they don’t show on their pricing page.

“Regulatory Charge”, “Admin & Telco Recovery Charge”, “Gross Receipts Surchg”, and “Fed Universal Service Charge”, and that doesn’t even include the state/local ones; they’re just Verizon’s set.

https://www.verizon.com/support/surcharges/

Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by Sylamore on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:59PM (#32757583)
I pay $99.98/mo for 3 lines with unlimited talk and data, including 5G data and a smartwatch with cellular access - that includes taxes and fees, on the Verizon network. That's $29.99/line + $10 for the smart watch. No way in hell I would pay $100/line.
Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by ceejayoz on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:12PM (#32757734)
Ah, we've got a misunderstanding; you're right at the average. You've got a cell phone plan, with multiple lines, that's $100/month. Not $100/line, $100/plan.

Looks like it's up since my number, too.

https://www.cnbc.com/select/how-to-cut-your-cell-phone-bill-...

> In fact, JD Power told CNBC that the average cell phone bill is now $144.

Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by jibe on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @09:01PM (#32759656)
Which MVNO? That's a good value!
Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by Sylamore on Thursday September 08, 2022 @01:19PM (#32768618)
Spectrum Mobile, you have to also be a spectrum internet customer. Before them I was on Visible (also Verizon), which was actually cheaper due to party pay but it was so heavily de-prioritized as to be unusable pretty frequently.
Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by hedora on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:17PM (#32760254)
We’re paying $80/month for 4 devices, unlimited everything; 5G. Considering dropping two, which will lower it to $50.

(T Mobile Metro)

Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by viraptor on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:36PM (#32760411)
That's why there's lots of Android phones with double sim slots. I'm just adding a new one on arrival rather than swapping. And no need to give anyone a temporary number.

For lots of people $100 is a significant amount compared to a $5 prepaid sim they can get locally.

Re:Apple Removes SIM Card Tray on All iPhone 14 Models in U.S. by addicted on Thursday September 08, 2022 @10:27AM (#32766026)
Now add up the cost of every one who’s trying to call you in the country you’re traveling to having to make an international call every time they call you.

And heaven forbid if they don’t have an iPhone. In some countries they’ll be charged large sums of money to text you as well.

I am not sure how true this is anymore, but it was in the US until at least a few years ago (and may still be on many carriers/plans) in many countries they would be charged for receiving texts from you as well.