OK, so if we assume that, then is public health worse in Europe because smoking rates are higher than the US? How about higher alcohol consumption?

Using life expectancy to judge the quality of a healthcare system or quality of public health efforts is like judging car quality by how nice the body work is. It's a component, but a relatively minor one in overall quality.

Why are you asking me when you could just google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expe...

Western Europe does better, Eastern Europe does worse. Pretty much as one would expect.

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Your prior "5 year cancer survival rate" was pretty random. The cherry picking of one favorable stat while ignoring the mountain of counterfactuals.

I was confused.

Then I spotted this.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/us-vs-europe-life-expectancy-...

Aha. Just another "libertarian" talking point. Good grief.

You're arguing in circles and not making a lot of sense.

First I argued that life expectancy isn't a good measure because of lifestyle, then you say "public health should address those", then I argued Europe does worse than the US on several public health metrics like smoking rates and alcohol consumption, then you go back to life expectancy.

I have no idea the point your making because you're failing to actually provide counterfactuals.