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Re:San Francisco braces for commercial real estate crash by CamperBob2 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @04:03PM (#32742500)
True to some extent, certainly. But if a cop in Arkansas catches you stealing a catalytic converter, the rest of your day is going to play out very differently compared to how things would have gone in SF.
Re:San Francisco braces for commercial real estate crash by ceejayoz on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @04:21PM (#32742703)
> But if a cop in Arkansas catches you stealing a catalytic converter, the rest of your day is going to play out very differently compared to how things would have gone in SF.

I don't doubt it. I doubt the cops' unsupported claim that said difference is an effective deterrent against the crime.

Re:San Francisco braces for commercial real estate crash by CamperBob2 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @04:46PM (#32742980)
I disagree with your premise that effective law enforcement isn't a deterrent, but the trouble is that there seems to be no fair way to settle the debate. The population density in SF, vehicle ownership demographics, even the typical location and security of parking spots is radically different compared to what you'd find in other areas.

We'd need some solid numbers on converter theft rates relative to the car-owning population. But even then the numbers wouldn't be comparable, so it'll always come down to my "common sense" versus yours. My common sense says that when cops see a crime in progress and walk away whistling, it encourages further crime... and also discourages the victim from bothering to report it.

Re:San Francisco braces for commercial real estate crash by throwaway0a5e on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:02AM (#32748670)
Heck, if an uninvolved local sees you stealing a catalytic converter in Arkansas there's a "high enough you can't write it off" chance you'll get their footwear on your ribcage. In SF the bystanders will probably just film.