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Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by PaulHoule on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @10:46AM (#32737770)
The carbon monoxide is possibly more valuable than the oxygen.

It's a good feedstock for making hydrocarbons and petrochemicals and also as good a reducing agent as hydrogen for making metals. In fact you could use the CO to make, say, iron, producing CO2 which gets cycled back into the above reactor.

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by was_a_dev on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:53PM (#32741518)
Even better, Carbon Monoxide can be used as a rocket fuel. Therefore MOXIE can completely generate propellant.

CO as rocket fuel isn't as effective as Hydrogen or Methane, but for the lower gravity of Mars it can still be useful for Mars-Mars transport or even returning to orbit.

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by knodi123 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:45AM (#32738715)
> to make, say, iron

? but iron is an element?

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:49AM (#32738790)
Carbon monoxide helps reduce iron oxide to iron [1]

[1] https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Inorganic_Chemistry/...

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by im3w1l on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:47AM (#32738748)
He means that you use carbon monoxide and iron-compound-rich mars dust to get elemental iron and carbon dioxide.
Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by PaulHoule on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:55AM (#32738868)
This is how a blast furnace works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_furnace

since it partially burns coke to make CO which reduces FeO to Fe producing CO2. An alternate approach is to reduce FeO with hydrogen producing H2O. Either way this is likely to be a circular process in a space economy since volatiles like H2O and CO2 are precious.

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by Out_of_Characte on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:52AM (#32738826)
He's talking about how elemental iron on earth binds to oxygen and that carbon monoxide could be used to reduce this but I have no clue wether martian metals are oxydised or not.
Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by brohee on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:55AM (#32738877)
Where do you think Mars red color come from?

https://www.space.com/16999-mars-red-planet.html

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by wongarsu on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:26PM (#32739393)
We think Mars had plenty of oxygen in the past, but because it's a smaller planet the molten core solidified. Without molten core no magnetic field, and without magnetic field most of the atmosphere was stripped away due to solar radiation, leaving only some heavy CO2 behind.

With that in mind, any metal ores had plenty of time to oxidize just like on earth. But metal from asteroids that impacted over the last two billion years or so should be unoxidized.

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by netsharc on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:14AM (#32738220)
Factorio should make a DLC...
Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by cheschire on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:15PM (#32741859)
They are making a DLC, and part of the team they onboarded for it made the Space Exploration mod.

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-365

https://www.patreon.com/posts/im-factorio-now-47218319

https://mods.factorio.com/user/Earendel

Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by root_axis on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:31PM (#32739488)
You might enjoy the popular "Space Exploration" mod.
Re:NASA can now reliably produce a tree’s worth of oxygen on... by TheMerovingian on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:23AM (#32738361)
Mods... lots of mods...