Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi...
by charcircuit on Monday September 05, 2022 @06:36PM
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>There’s no “but” here
There is because I wrote it there. But is used to show contrast. I was contrasting how there was doxing and there wasn't swatting.
>doxxing is unethical and illegal
It may be unethical to you, but it is ethical to me. Doxxing is not illegal in the United States.
>This forum encouraged, enabled, and glorified it.
I see the documentation and preservation as a good thing. Not everyone has to share the same opinion as me. People who don't want to see this stuff can not visit the site.
>This is bullshit designed to evade responsibility with a wink and a nod
It doesn't glorify it anymore than wikipedia glorifies the historical events it has articles about.
>The forum provides the means
That doesn't mean the forum should be responsible. If Is someone googles a person's name and their address shows up does that mean Google is responsible for the person being swatted? In my opinion, no it isn't.
>glorifies the result
The forum can't control how people respond to the event. No one is forcing people to commented negatively or positively or even at all about it. Even without the Kiwi Farms it would likely be talked about somewhere else.
>they don’t explicitly setup a SWAT autodialer
They don't implicitly do this either. The community in general doesn't swat people. Yes, I'm sure you can find some exception, but I don't believe a community should be killed just because there are some bad people who claim to be a part of it in it.
A link isn't an argument. Are you trying to say that free speech is bad and that we should censor people to avoid the subset of acceptable speech from changing? I personally am pro free speech and anti censorship so we disagree on these things if that was what you were trying to say.
There is because I wrote it there. But is used to show contrast. I was contrasting how there was doxing and there wasn't swatting.
>doxxing is unethical and illegal
It may be unethical to you, but it is ethical to me. Doxxing is not illegal in the United States.
>This forum encouraged, enabled, and glorified it.
I see the documentation and preservation as a good thing. Not everyone has to share the same opinion as me. People who don't want to see this stuff can not visit the site.
>This is bullshit designed to evade responsibility with a wink and a nod
It doesn't glorify it anymore than wikipedia glorifies the historical events it has articles about.
>The forum provides the means
That doesn't mean the forum should be responsible. If Is someone googles a person's name and their address shows up does that mean Google is responsible for the person being swatted? In my opinion, no it isn't.
>glorifies the result
The forum can't control how people respond to the event. No one is forcing people to commented negatively or positively or even at all about it. Even without the Kiwi Farms it would likely be talked about somewhere else.
>they don’t explicitly setup a SWAT autodialer
They don't implicitly do this either. The community in general doesn't swat people. Yes, I'm sure you can find some exception, but I don't believe a community should be killed just because there are some bad people who claim to be a part of it in it.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
A link isn't an argument. Are you trying to say that free speech is bad and that we should censor people to avoid the subset of acceptable speech from changing? I personally am pro free speech and anti censorship so we disagree on these things if that was what you were trying to say.