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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by phatfish on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:40PM (#32727672)
Someone defines what gets removed. Ideally in a democracy "society" as a whole decides what that is. The obvious example is child exploitation, are pedophiles rights to swap images of kids currently being "censored as speech YOU hate"?.

Harassment forums like the one in discussion here have no place in civilized society and I am happy for them to be censored. The people that frequent these sites can get together in person and chat about hating all they want, but the method of their harassment (the global platform of the internet) should removed -- insofar as that is possible.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by mlyle on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:56PM (#32727856)
As I was discussing in the previous thread, I disagree with this.

> Someone defines what gets removed. Ideally in a democracy "society" as a whole decides what that is.

Ideally, many smaller elements make their decisions about what speech to promote or convey, and "society" or the "government" is the actor of last resort-- stepping in for the most not-OK stuff when the market has been shown to fail.

Concentrated power is dangerous-- whether it's in the hands of a government or a single overly-powerful commercial actor-- and needs to be restrained one way or another.

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