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Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by GuB-42 on Monday September 05, 2022 @06:57AM (#32722917)
Celsius is better for cooking, the Fahrenheit scale is better for hot weather, for colder weather, I prefer Celsius, around 0°C means water is freezing, so, snow, ice, etc...

Feet or inches are, I think, a bit more human friendly than meters, but only when used by themselves, that factor of 12 is just weird in a base 10 system. I know that the argument is that you can divide by 3 and 4 easily, but when it matters, metric countries simply make standard sizes a multiple of 12 (ex:120mm).

For volumes and weights, I find absolutely no redeeming feature to the imperial / US customary system. The kilogram is a perfectly fine unit, so is the liter, and that both are the same when we are weighing water is a very useful property. Because many things are around the density of water, you know that most things that fits in a 1L bottle weight around a kg, and you can often measure volumes with a scale without conversion.

Metric is not the most practical for every single situation, but it is more practical when used as a whole, that is, when you need to deal with with several quantities at the same time (ex: masses and lengths). And there are everyday situation where it is simply better in my opinion, like cooking.

Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by gs17 on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:40PM (#32728434)
> Celsius is better for cooking

As far as I'm aware, there's no winner for cooking. I've never seen a recipe that required temperature more than as a value that could be provided in any units as long as you have equipment in those units (i.e. I'm not doing math with them). Putting "400°F" or "200°C" or "475 K" or some arbitrary "oven level 5" into my oven shouldn't really change how it comes out.

On the stovetop, I've never had an instruction with a temperature attached besides "interior temperature must reach X" or keeping something at a near-boiling temperature, which I've never needed a thermometer for, and 90% of the time I'm improvising without caring what the temperature is outside of "hot enough to cook the way I want but not too hot".

Sous-vide? It needs the temperature within a tight range, but the scale attached to the numbers doesn't matter as long as it's the one my thermometer uses. Double boiler? Doesn't even need you to use a thermometer to keep the temperature right. Give me a kitchen with everything in unpronouncible alien temperature units and I'd do just fine.

Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by bmitc on Monday September 05, 2022 @07:12AM (#32723028)
About as reasonable a take as you can get.

Can you elaborate on the cooking though? I've seen that mentioned here a couple of times, and I'm not sure I follow. I'm from a Fahrenheit country and my wife from a Celsius country, and it's never caused any issues or confusion in the kitchen. But maybe you mean also for the volumetric measurements as well (or primarily)?

Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by GuB-42 on Monday September 05, 2022 @08:01AM (#32723323)
It is not about confusion, it is about convenience. I like the idea that water boils at 100°C since it is maybe the most important temperature in cooking. I like the fact that I can measure 500mL of water on a scale as 500g (and other liquids with a small error). Small details that make it more convenient in metric.

But there is something else, and I am asking you the question. Since you and your wife live in countries with different unit systems, isn't problem when doing each others recipes?

I mean I live in Europe, and if the recipe calls for 4 ounces of butter, I don't have a 4 ounces stick of butter, I have a 125g stick, which is not exactly that. A quart of milk is not exactly the liter I have. And my oven doesn't do 350°F, it does 180°C which is not exactly the same. In the end, I will have to adjust the recipe to my standards, and things may be lost (or gained) in translation, but it won't be the same.

Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by Symbiote on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:07PM (#32727257)
For what it's worth, if looking for an English recipe I just add "UK" to my search to avoid American measurements. I find British recipes are also less likely to require some processed American ingredient unavailable in the EU. ("Add the miracle whip," what?)
Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by SeanLuke on Monday September 05, 2022 @08:40AM (#32723628)
> Celsius is better for cooking

Not really. Celsius maps to the boiling and freezing points of water in Paris. Live in Denver and you're screwed. And -- this is important -- nobody measures the freezing points and boiling points of water, because during its phase changes water holds to that temperature automatically.

Fahrenheit is also twice the resolution of Celsius. This is highly advantageoous for body temperature, medicine, cooking, and other functions. Celsius's integer resolution is horrible.

Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by ajuc on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:03AM (#32723852)
You give temperatures for cooking with 5 C resolution anyway, why would you need more than 0.5 C resolution?
Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by SeanLuke on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:41PM (#32726961)
Okay, highly advantageous for body temperature and medicine, only marginally advantageous for cooking.
Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by ajuc on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:18PM (#32727413)
Unnecessary precision is a disadvantage. That's why speed limits are 60 mph not 316800 feet per hour.
Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by SeanLuke on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:29PM (#32732468)
This sounds like trolling. Fahrenheit nearly perfectly nailed the intervals of importance in body temperature when it comes to child fevers, say. As no doubt you know well, 100 is "mild", 101 is "significant", 102 is "requires medicine to bring fever down" and 103 is "call the doctor". That's a huge difference in a range of 3 units. Now ask yourself what those values are in celsius.
Re:Why A4? – The Mathematical Beauty of Paper Size by ajuc on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @05:44AM (#32734900)
I meant cooking. You wrote that Fahrenheit has "marginal advantage" in cooking, I responded that unnecessary precision is a disadvantage if anything.

As for body temperature the rule of thumb as I know it is sth like this:

    36 - fine
    36.6 - the theoretical perfect temperature (but it's a lie [1])
    37 - observe
    38 - go see doctor (but no rush)
    39 and higher - go see doctor immediately
These also depend on where you measure the temperature, mostly people measure in armpits here, if you do oral or rectal then they will differ. Remote measuring on your forehead is almost useless.

As for "requires medicine" - I don't remember having to make that decision, if I had 38+ C fever I just went to a doctor anyway.

[1] the actual perfect temperature changes by almost 0.5 C between people, time of day, time of month (for women) and other factors (measurement error). If you used thermal method of anticonception you'll know how variable it really is.