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Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by googlryas on Saturday September 03, 2022 @02:47PM (#32704830)
Scooters are annoying to go more than a few miles on. Bikes can carry more cargo. Bikes can ride on surfaces that would toss a scooter rider off.
Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by pjmlp on Saturday September 03, 2022 @02:52PM (#32704879)
Since when bikes carry more cargo than a scooter?

All have a box under the seat and then boxes are usually bigger than what most bycicles have available.

I wonder which surfaces are we talking about when taking into consideration proper driving regulations.

Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by vladvasiliu on Saturday September 03, 2022 @02:58PM (#32704936)
Ha, there's probably a terminology misunderstanding.

I think GP was talking about "kick scooters", the ones on which you stand, whereas you're talking about "motorcycle scooters", the ones on which you sit.

I agree, the latter kind usually have much space, and can maybe even be modified to add a top case, etc.

The first ones, though, are an atrocity as far as I'm concerned. Very unstable, the small wheels need perfect pavement (I live in Paris, our streets haven't seen any maintenance since Roman times).

Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by googlryas on Saturday September 03, 2022 @04:13PM (#32705630)
Ok, I thought you were talking about the kind of scooters where you stand on them. If you google "electric scooter", you'll see what I mean.

I don't think there is really much difference between an electric sit-down scooter and an e-bike except for ergonomics, except where you might get some weird looks - riding an ebike on a 35+mph road, vs riding a scooter on a dirt trail.

But still, google "radwagon 4" as an example of an e-cargo bike(this is what I have). It has way more capacity than a sit-down scooter. I put two (small) kids on it, and about 50 lbs of groceries, which I don't think one could do with a sit-down scooter.

Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by pjmlp on Saturday September 03, 2022 @05:09PM (#32706098)
Nope, I was talking about classical scooters,

https://www.piaggio.com/en_EN/piaggio-world/news-piaggio/pia...

From my point of view cargo bikes are the two wheel version of trucks/bus, and only suitable for transport inside of city traffic, whereas with the other ones they are as usable as any motorbike.

Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by googlryas on Saturday September 03, 2022 @06:56PM (#32707150)
Why? I ride it even when I have no cargo needs. It is just like a regular bike really. I guess it's harder to drag it up 5 flights of stairs.
Re:The E-bike Is a Monstrosity by pjmlp on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:52AM (#32709961)
Harder to drag, doesn't do motorway, takes lot of parking space (in some German towns now we have specific cargo bike slots because of it)…..