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Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by ceejayoz on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:25AM (#32702145)
$200k sounds like a minuscule amount of capital for a business with hundreds of $40-50k vehicles on hand.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by WastingMyTime89 on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:56AM (#32702441)
That’s 10% of the average pre-pandemic yearly pre-tax profit of a dealership if WardsAuto is to be believed. So very much doable but not insignificant.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by ceejayoz on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:59AM (#32702477)
For a once in a generation shift in technology? There are probably individual pieces of equipment in the service department that cost more than that.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by myself248 on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:27PM (#32703438)
I doubt that very much. Fanciest machine in a stealership is probably the wheel alignment machine, and a top-of-the-line Hunter will set you back about $35k.

The typical two-post lift that's in every bay is like $3000. The various dealer service tools (several-generation-old toughbooks with a 500% markup) are also in that ballpark. Then you've got various flush and fill machines, refrigerant recovery and vacuum, etc, in the $1-2k range each. And then there's a whole menagerie of special little jigs and thingamabobs that're probably each in the $20-200 range, but which save a lot of scraped knuckles and swearing and such.

If you head to a performance tuning shop, you might find a 4-wheel chassis dyno worth about $50k or maybe more, but dealerships don't have those.

Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by smugma on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:06PM (#32703210)
Or, 1-2% a year if you spread it over the next 8 years to get ready by 2030.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by jlarocco on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:33PM (#32703494)
Exactly. This is a perfect use case for a bank loan.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by WalterBright on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:47PM (#32703638)
Those vehicles are all there on borrowed money, and I'm sure it ain't the full purchase price that's needed.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by ceejayoz on Saturday September 03, 2022 @01:03PM (#32703790)
A company with $2M/year in profit should have no issue getting a $200k loan for improvements they'll be using for the next decade.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by WalterBright on Saturday September 03, 2022 @01:23PM (#32704009)
They may already be maxed out on their line of credit. Companies aren't fools and they take advantage of leverage (borrowing) to maximize their profits.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by ceejayoz on Saturday September 03, 2022 @02:02PM (#32704406)
If you're going to assert the average car dealership's $2M of annual net profit can't handle a $200k capital expense that can be amortized over a decade or more, you're gonna have to gimme a bit more than "maybe they're out of credit".
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by WalterBright on Saturday September 03, 2022 @02:46PM (#32704826)
Obviously the dealer or his creditors don't think he can handle it. They know their business far better than you or I. It's doubtful they'd be foolish enough to pass up a sure thing.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by kevinventullo on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:52AM (#32702407)
To be fair, the profit margins for dealerships on those vehicles are more like single-digit thousands.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by rozap on Saturday September 03, 2022 @11:24AM (#32702734)
Dealers have razor thin margins, like 1-2%. They make it up in...creative ways.
Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by matt_s on Saturday September 03, 2022 @11:29AM (#32702783)
There’s nothing creative or secret about it, they make the most of their money in the Service department. All the doc fees or loan kickbacks, etc. are the same if its EV or ICE.

I think hesitancy by dealerships is in the long term EV’s require much less maintenance and that means their service and profits will be much less.

Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by smugma on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:08PM (#32703227)
Average dealership makes ~$2M/yr. Their margins are very high. I think you're referring to their margins on the sale of automobiles. Those are like the Big Mac.

Their service departments are equivalent to the much higher margin soda.

Re:GM offers to buy out Buick dealers that don't want to inv... by whaleofatw2022 on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:47PM (#32703641)
Most dealers have their Floorplan financed, i.e. FMCC for Ford/Lincoln, NMAC for Nissan, as well as other independent players