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Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by hnuser847 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:31PM (#32678865)
Thank you for mentioning interest rates. Any time housing comes up on HN, the main factors people bring up are short-term rentals, NIMBYism, and lack of new development. However, if these explanations had any merit, why have home values in Flint, MI increased by 67% since March of 2020?

Flint's population has rapidly declined over the past 40 years and continues to decline (its population is less than half of what it was at its peak), so there's not a population boom driving up demand. Flint is not exactly known as a tourist destination either. And to top off, Flint is most well known for its contaminated drinking water that contains lead. So why on Earth would such a place be experiencing a housing shortage?

The obvious answer is that governments around the world have brought interests rate down to zero, which forces investors to seek out riskier and riskier assets to invest in. Instead of investing in traditionally safe assets like treasuries and bonds, investors now have no choice but to invest in stuff like tech startups, cryptocurrencies, personal loans, mortgage-backed securities, and dilapidated houses in the Midwest.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by rr888 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:39PM (#32678990)
And the biggest reason people buy housing is that its been the best investment. The wealthiest people I know are the people that bought houses a long time back and kept leveraging up into buying more.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by hnuser847 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:14PM (#32680647)
That's the path I'm on right now, not because I love being a landlord, but simply because it's the best investment available.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by megalord on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:26PM (#32683467)
And that's exactly why are houses so damn expensive all over the world. Boom
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by pharmakom on Thursday September 01, 2022 @06:01PM (#32683906)
Equities have a higher return historically. Housing is interesting though because mortgages offer huge leverage to retail investors.
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by rr888 on Friday September 02, 2022 @08:27AM (#32689778)
> Equities have a higher return historically

Maybe in the USA. In other countries real equity returns have been negative for decades.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by pessimizer on Thursday September 01, 2022 @07:57PM (#32684962)
Housing only started beating inflation sometime in the late 90s.