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Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:11AM (#32677496)
I'm in region 4, normally we have around 1600KwH in the worst winter month (small house, 2 air pumps).

If prices rise 5x as is expected, we're looking at ~8000€ for a single month. (1€/KwH x 5)

Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by not-my-account on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:18AM (#32677609)
Perhaps a dumb question, but do many houses have chimneys? Would burning wood ameliorate the problem?
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:22AM (#32677673)
Mostly older houses do (< 50s), and yes, wood is the most cost effective.

This house is > 70s, doesn't have a chimney, but we're considering installing a cast-iron wood burner in the house center for this winter.

Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by sorenjan on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:32AM (#32677861)
Firewood was in short supply and hard to find this winter and spring because of high power prices, imagine what will happen this coming winter with prices 5X-10X.
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:40AM (#32678010)
It's still a country with a lot of wood, finding a farmer willing to sell some even at the worst of times, are easier than any alternative.
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by sorenjan on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:00PM (#32678353)
There's sellers that are already out of stock. Firewood needs to dry for months before use, and like everything else when there's high demand there will be high prices.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/minekonomi/a/66p5LQ/ved-rusning-l...

Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by zppln on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:44PM (#32679079)
Maybe I can flip my 3 cubic meters of really shitty pine wood for a new graphics card this winter..? Not gonna afford to run it for a while though...
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:18PM (#32678648)
Yeah, these are hard times, I wouldn't bet on finding wood unless you know someone.
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by selectodude on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:21AM (#32677661)
You pay €1600/mo normally?! Holy crap!
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:25AM (#32677737)
No, read again, 1600 KwH energy consumption, not cost.
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by selectodude on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:39PM (#32678993)
At 1 euro per kWh
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Thursday September 01, 2022 @01:09PM (#32679576)
Well, almost, the top today was 1€/KwH, the average is 0.75€.

But the consumption is only ~800KwH for August.

Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by selectodude on Thursday September 01, 2022 @03:21PM (#32681657)
Yeah, regardless. I pay $0.11/kWh so I was just utterly gobsmacked at the cost of electricity in Northern Europe. And most of our electricity generation is nuclear.
Re:Surging Energy Prices in Europe in the Aftermath of the War by tmikaeld on Friday September 02, 2022 @12:00AM (#32686449)
Yeah, it’s horrifying and life altering for many