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Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by trention on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @06:16PM (#32669050)
>I used games as examples just because they are the easiest to understand and most popular applications of RL

No, you used it in exactly this context:

" >How significant are these top 3 things?

They generate billions of dollars of profit "

and the claim was incorrect regarding example 1.

I also don't think you understand what profit is and the difference between profit and revenue. Regardless, this exchange has become pretty pointless.

Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by Banana699 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @07:08PM (#32669519)
So something that is used to develop something that later generates billions of dollar of profits isn't, in itself, responsible in part for those billions of dollars ?

So by this reasoning, something like Linux has exactly $0 value in monetary terms. Linux is never an application, it never does something that actual users pay for (the "users" who pay for Linux support are just developers and corporations who use it to develop something else).

>I also don't think you understand what profit is and the difference between profit and revenue.

Yes, I don't understand an elementary distinction between terms that anybody with a dictionary understands. This is quite a fair and productive point for you to make.

>this exchange has become pretty pointless.

Probably the one thing you're right about in this, I'm indeed not interested in debating incredibly insecure people fond of accusing others of ignorance (quite often a projection technique) instead of engaging with their arguments or citing specific examples or research.

Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by jfghi on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @08:23PM (#32670129)
Regarding the last sentence, you started the argument and haven’t displayed the slightest understanding of the topic argued. I have 15 years combined experience between academia and career excluding undergrad. I’ll be the first to admit that there are counter-claims and refinements to my statements, but you just go on and on and on without saying anything meaningful while being addicted to having the last word. So go ahead and talk in circles.

For the sake of analogy, perhaps I should read some articles on equine veterinary practices and start talking down to practitioners in the field, all for the sake of making my internet ego feel better.

Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by Banana699 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:17PM (#32670582)
It's utterly hilarious how you think the person who cites research and asks specific concrete questions (which, as a reminder, you hadn't answered yet) is the one who talks in circles and strokes his ego.

Yeah, 15 years in industry and academia, and you don't know how statistics and probability theory are different.

May you have a nice happy day\night my guy.

Re:Why are deep learning technologists so overconfident? by trention on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:23AM (#32672686)
>Yes, I don't understand an elementary distinction between terms that anybody with a dictionary understands

Yes, you actually don't understand them. Which is why you said this

>the global market of offering a speech-to-text API is valued at 1.3 billion dollars in 2019

which is about revenue when you previously were talking about profits. It's obvious who is the insecure one in this exchange.