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Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by seszett on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:04AM (#32650600)
> I cannot imagine living in a population density of of 742 people per mi² (287 per Km²).

That's a significantly lower than here in Belgium (376/km², and 490/km² here in Flanders).

I'm not sure which country you live in, but although I would absolutely move back home (at about 100/km²) if I could, it's not the urban hell you seem to imagine.

Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by Nokinside on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:17AM (#32650793)
Only part of Pakistan is habitable. Pakistan has large inhabitable areas. Including three huge mountain rages: Himalaya, the Karakoram and the Hindukush. In these areas people live only in narrow valleys next to river. (when the the river floods, they are screwed).
Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by kurupt213 on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @12:22PM (#32652169)
This is the way people have always lived (except for very modern times)
Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by bobthepanda on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @12:32PM (#32652279)
I think they mean to say that comparing the Pakistani figures (which include low population mountains and deserts) to Belgium (which is pretty much entirely arable and flat as a pancake) is a bit silly.
Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by kurupt213 on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:16PM (#32653927)
Human societies have always crowded riverbanks. Until very recent times.
Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by bobthepanda on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @08:31PM (#32656917)
Both statements can be true at the same time

* this is a common pattern of settlement

* the different geographies of two countries make a very simple (population / land area) density figure misleading, because Belgium is nearly 100% riverbank or floodplain and Pakistan is not

This is such a known problem that the US Census already has a different density measurement method, population-weighted density: https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/ex/sustainablecitiescollecti...

Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by seszett on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:52AM (#32659530)
Although Belgium certainly isn't as rugged as Pakistan, it's far from flat and especially in Wallonia population is very concentrated along one valley (the sillon Sambre et Meuse):

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kobe-Boussauw/publicati...

As a result, the region has a population density of 240/km² (only slightly less than Pakistan) but about 2/3rds of the population is in this valley representing 1/16th of the area of Wallonia. Flanders is mostly flat and more evenly settled.

This is actually more similar than I expected to the population distribution in Pakistan, with Punjab being a flat plain with an evenly distributed population, and the rest of the country being mostly settled along one river. By the way, Belgium also suffered a large flooding event last year in this valley, although nowhere near as deadly as what is happening in Pakistan.

Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by selimthegrim on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @02:23PM (#32653425)
*uninhabitable
Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by Tade0 on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @11:02AM (#32651307)
I suppose the size of the territory and landscape is what makes all the difference.

Macau is amazingly densely populated, but at the same time the same density as Paris, but 1/3 of the size. It's an hour walk from one end to the other according to Google Maps.

India on the other hand is just 10% denser than Belgium, but doesn't feel like that when you look at photos of its cities and trains loaded with people.

Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by wittycardio on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @11:14AM (#32651446)
It's more about designing good systems. Belgium is a developed country with excellent infrastructure whereas India is a developing country with poor infrastructure
Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by tonylemesmer on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:37AM (#32651026)
322/km² in the UK

[0] Ourworldindata.org

Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by arethuza on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @11:51AM (#32651824)
Within the UK the distribution is far from uniform as well:

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.74...

e.g. More land is peat bogs than is built up.

Re:A third of Pakistan is underwater from floods, climate ch... by tromp on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:48AM (#32651154)
521/km^2 here to your north in Holland...