Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly half

Re:Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly... by orwin on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:23AM (#32647960)

About global cooling: the French green party was born in the 70s over water availability and global warming. Idk where this global cooling myth came from, i tracked it down to an American weekly newspaper, but couldn't find published research about it. I've found articles about nuclear winter and on the cyclical nature of historical climate (and explanation on how we average the temperature of a century studying Antarctica ice), but nothing on a global cooling fear.

Until someone point me to a peer reviewed research paper of the 70s, i will consider anybody using this argument a grifter. Sorry, it's like the third time on this website i ask for sources and i guess I will be ignored for the third time.

For people who don't have time to research: it seems to be a newspaper hoax used by grifters.

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Re:Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly... by verdverm on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @12:22PM (#32652166)

I called it fear mongering for a reason...

https://www.climate.gov/teaching/resources/70s-they-said-the...

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Re:Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly... by Arnt on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:55AM (#32648141)

Which paper was that? I'm also interested in other early sources, even if not serious.

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Re:Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly... by orwin on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:30AM (#32648354)

I think it originated from Newsweek. I found others in US journals, and it didn't catch up at all in other developed countries, as it was not a scientific article (hence why i never heard of it at all growing up). I don't understand why this myth seems to be present also in the UK, my guess is that's a tabloid who dug that 70s Newsweek story and sold it to 'uninformed' (or gullible, depending on how charitable you want to be) public.

The weird thing to me is that it seems nobody's disputing the claim, as this was a "science evolve everyday" proof. Yes, everyday some new evidence are found that shake/modify our understanding of the world, but this particular story? A lie. Or at least a really controversial take. It basically said that some climate scientists believed that the earth wouldn't warm due to human activities like other believed. The consensus was still building.

But even then, no climate scientists thought human activities had no impact.

And anybody who propagate this story either is part of this group of people who 'share' without thinking (but on hacker news it's quite hard to publish without writing, thus thinking), or is a liar with an agenda. That's why I ask for scientific article every time, i know none exist because this is a hoax, and usually the liar leave the discussion.

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Re:Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly... by Arnt on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:54AM (#32648501)

It's better to ask than to accuse. To act as if the other party is honest and well-intentioned saves your own sanity, if nothing else.

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Re:Americans underestime climate policy popularity by nearly... by quantified on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @11:39AM (#32651681)

My dim recollection (I was young at the time) is that based on known times for ice ages, it seemed to someone like we were becoming due for another one. Just based on the clock, no understanding of mechanics. More Newsweek-like.

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