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Re:The silent majority in software by rektide on Monday August 29, 2022 @11:01AM (#32639129)
It's just so awesome that a thread on "Silent Majority" has the typical loud protests against JavaScript, against the web, against React, against TypeScript. The irony is loud to me.

It's not even that there's only happy heads-down programmers off HN who support these mainstream techs. Even in the active userbase here, I'd wager there are tons of people who have an adequate or better experience with typescript or react, and may disagree with the dislikers. But we're not as invested in our liking, don't feel like it's worth engaging in, and none of the banter changes what is or where things are going. These are the de-jure tools that the majority definitely uses widely, which at least the first anti- comment, on front-end frameworks, acknowledged. Whatever the targets-of-the-day happen to be, they will crop up repeatedly, which further dissuades from trying to come back with a positive or even neutral opinion that might represent that silent majority's take. And the silent majority must constantly face Brandolini's Law; what it's doing may be working & have good reason, but it's hard to keep supporting & reasoning through with a pact invested in disbelieving.

I liked the top post talking about disagreeing with the direction. That can be contributive, be value based. So often though the protests amount to gatekeeping "you've done too much." I evaluate where these comments would fall on Steve Yeggie's Software Political axis, from Notes from the Mystery Magic Bus[1], and almost universally the voices are conservative; they object rather than suggest, they refuse rather than support. I'd like to see more progressive protests, that can surface good, that acknowledge value & need but reflow or redirect the energy elsewhere, rather than being unhappy with what is.

[1] https://gist.github.com/cornchz/3313150

Re:The silent majority in software by wnolens on Monday August 29, 2022 @05:54PM (#32644047)
HN can be conversational, not always a well researched debate. Most of us are over-involved with these debates with coworkers at our day jobs, where we HAVE to spend the energy having productive disagreements.

I appreciate the high quality HN posts, but sometimes just like at a water cooler a bunch of us just wanna say, "agh I'm so sick of object oriented" and it doesn't mean "all object oriented programming is of no use".