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Re:The silent majority in software by t_mann on Monday August 29, 2022 @05:31AM (#32636243)
140k EUR for a dev role? Normally I'd say you're delusional, but since you say you actually know people who consider that normal, may I ask which country(ies) you're talking about (since it's apparently not Switzerland or Norway, where I might have believed it)?

I still have a strong suspicion that either your friends gave you wildly inflated numbers, or you happen to know some serious outliers. Check this out for a reality check - the highest-paying Eurozone country is Germany, with an average dev salary of about 60k, and 76k for seniors: https://blog.helloastra.com/2021/10/18/the-average-software-...

Re:The silent majority in software by nvarsj on Monday August 29, 2022 @05:47AM (#32636318)
140k is possible, it's probably an outlier though for a perm role. I worked at a SF based start up and that is around the salary they paid EMEA principal engineers. FAANG will pay more than that for a senior engineer (around 200k). As a contractor you can also hit this number pretty easily (it's around 600/day).
Re:The silent majority in software by t_mann on Monday August 29, 2022 @06:02AM (#32636387)
The GP said 140k was at or above the average, while the data suggests that it's an extreme outlier. But tbh I struggle to believe it even for senior roles at a SV start-up. Do you know what the reasoning was for paying so far above the market?

Freelancing is a different story.

Re:The silent majority in software by nvarsj on Monday August 29, 2022 @01:02PM (#32640616)
I think you're right, this was in the UK (pre-brexit) so 140 was competitive with similar contracting roles. Elsewhere it is probably a lot lower.
Re:The silent majority in software by sbuk on Monday August 29, 2022 @02:14PM (#32641519)
UK? Exclusively London I would wager.
Re:The silent majority in software by richeyryan on Monday August 29, 2022 @05:45AM (#32636303)
That site seems to exclude Ireland entirely, which would I think would come in ahead of Germany for salaries and is both a European and Eurozone country.
Re:The silent majority in software by t_mann on Monday August 29, 2022 @05:53AM (#32636346)
And by how much would you expect it to be ahead? Spoiler alert, I wouldn't set my hopes too high:

https://ie.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer https://de.talent.com/salary?job=software+developer

(this says Ireland is almost on par with Germany, which sounds about right)

Re:The silent majority in software by benhurmarcel on Monday August 29, 2022 @06:14AM (#32636452)
It might be a contractor's invoice. So in most countries that would compare to an employee's salary around half of that probably.
Re:The silent majority in software by golergka on Monday August 29, 2022 @08:51AM (#32637548)
Contracting for US-based companies.