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Re:After years of setbacks, NASA’s SLS moon rocket is ready ... by WWLink on Sunday August 28, 2022 @06:55PM (#32632913)
To send starship to the moon takes 5-10 more starships to refuel it first. Of course, comparing orion to starship is like comparing a dragon to the space shuttle. Starship is enormous and that's why it needs so much fuel lol.

I'm not saying there's room for improvement, but I think people neg Artemis way too hard for what it is. And people give Starship too much credit for what it is (so far). (And I DO like the idea of Starship and hope it succeeds). If it succeeds things will be awesome!

Re:After years of setbacks, NASA’s SLS moon rocket is ready ... by midasuni on Sunday August 28, 2022 @08:27PM (#32633580)
Starship hasn’t made orbit yet. I’m hopefully it will, even factoring in Elon time (wasn’t he talking about reaching Mars unmanned in 2024?) it’s slow going.

I’m hopeful it will meat here falcons success, but until then compare what’s actually possible today.

Re:After years of setbacks, NASA’s SLS moon rocket is ready ... by Veedrac on Sunday August 28, 2022 @11:59PM (#32634674)
That is a very unfair comparison. You are giving numbers for Starship going to NRHO, then landing the whole upper stage on the moon, then returning it to NRHO. That is a completely different ballpark to SLS's ‘dump a capsule in a lunar flyby which itself can't even get to LLO’.

And if the SLS/Orion architecture wasn't so underperforming, Starship could waste less energy making up for it.