We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know

Re:We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know by al_mandi on Sunday August 28, 2022 @02:14PM (#32630585)

We apply logic where it applies, and we use other sources of evidence for where it doesn't apply. This is the same as we were talking about regarding science. Science and logic have their limitations, they are good at what they do within their realm of operation, but outside of it, we have to use other tools.

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Re:We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know by eis on Sunday August 28, 2022 @03:44PM (#32631393)

  > We apply logic where it applies, and we use other sources of evidence for where it doesn't apply

If you leave the realm of logic then really anything can be claimed. I claim there is a pink machine outside our universe which is printing universes. How do you know this not to be the case?

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Re:We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know by al_mandi on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @02:14AM (#32658989)

> If you leave the realm of logic then really anything can be claimed

God is outside the realm of logic. Think about it, if you create a game or simulation, are you bound by its laws? You can make a simulation where 1 + 1 = 5

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Re:We don't know how the universe began, and we will never know by eis on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @11:40AM (#32663659)

That was my point. Outside logic anything goes. It is pointless to argue about it.

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