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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by mrob on Sunday August 28, 2022 @11:13AM (#32629015)
You can even dynamically adjust the tuning to maximize consonance throughout the song, e.g.:

https://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/mp3s/three_ears.html

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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by still_grokking on Sunday August 28, 2022 @03:02PM (#32631012)
Is "maximized consonance" what causes those extreme sharp sounding ring tones? (After listening to this peace my ears are still ringing; 2 min. after the fact).

Also the tonal glides sound like an old broken record player. (This creates a sensation of "wobbling speed", which sounds just wrong).

Hmm, my ears are still ringing, even while writing this; that was not a pleasant experience to be honest…

I guess I need some ear-bleach. Psytrance to the rescue! Let's see, maybe, hmm, Talpa¹, or maybe better that old Atma set²?

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¹ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wErFe-1dlg4

² https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU9FDStUoT8

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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by dcow on Sunday August 28, 2022 @12:08PM (#32629458)
This is really cool. It sounds weird for about the first 45-90 seconds but then my mind adjusts and it sounds really pleasant. Would make a good context/theme for a video game soundtrack.
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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by drdeca on Sunday August 28, 2022 @01:29PM (#32630166)
To me the individual notes sound fine and usually normal-ish (except for the really extended ones), but I have difficulty hearing the overall tune? Or, it sounds like there are parts of a tune with other parts on top which I don’t hear how they fit?

I think a clearer demonstration might be to have a side by side comparison of a fairly simple tune in 12TET vs in this dynamical tuning.

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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by thewebcount on Sunday August 28, 2022 @03:55PM (#32631492)
Agreed! I’m not hearing a very definable or memorable melody or harmony. The synth sounds chosen are kind of grating, which doesn’t help. I’d love to hear something more coherent in this sort of tuning to get a better understanding of it.
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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by AnonCoward42 on Sunday August 28, 2022 @12:38PM (#32629725)
It really is kool. However, I have the feeling you can transport only a very limited range of emotions with it as we are accustomed to certain harmonics I guess.

Still, it's kinda like alien music and it's certainly creative.

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Re:Why are D-sharp and E-flat considered to be two different... by still_grokking on Sunday August 28, 2022 @03:44PM (#32631396)
I just learned: This seems to be related to that "Hermode Tuning".

https://en.xen.wiki/w/Adaptive_just_intonation

But there seem to be differences. Some demos have those tonal glides (that I don't like) but some don't (and sound just great).

Could someone explain in a "TL;DR" what's going on here?

But I see, that wiki I just found seems to be full of info. But it will take time to read all that… Would prefer to have some VSTs to just play around with. Any tips?

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