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Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by ChuckNorris89 on Saturday August 27, 2022 @04:54PM (#32623094)
Then why not be enthusiastic about it on AS threads. This thread is about Intel chiplet design, it ahs nothing to do with AS so why pollute every silicone thread with this offtopic.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by tambourine_man on Saturday August 27, 2022 @07:13PM (#32624174)
Is it OK to mention AMD on Intel threads? AS is not the same ISA, but to me, it’s all the same topic: consumer level chips.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday August 28, 2022 @03:35AM (#32626510)
And where can I go buy these Apple consumer chips to put in my PC? Do you see how this works?
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by tambourine_man on Sunday August 28, 2022 @08:47AM (#32628000)
I don’t see how it only makes it on topic if the vendor sells individual parts but to each their own.
Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday August 28, 2022 @02:37PM (#32630792)
Because Apple only sells Apple devices, not chips. AS parts can only be found in the Apple ecosystem and can only be bought exclusively within devices Apple sells, while the other part (X86 from Intel and AMD) can be bough by anyone, run almost any OS and SW to date, and be used in any design/application you can dream of from laptops, PCs, servers, consoles, mainframes, cloud datacenters, robots, planes, even inside Tesla's head unit, while AS is just in a few Apple devices that don't overlap with most for the segments I mentioned before.

One silicone part has an impact over the entire computing sphere, while the other is relevant only within the Apple ecosystem. So bringing up AS in all threads about generic computing chips that anyone can buy directly is pointless as Apple does not cater to that market.

That's like me bringing up how fast my Ferrari is in threads about utilitarian vans and pickup trucks. Sure, they're both cars, but they don't compete in the same segments, so Ferrari making an even faster car has no impact or threat on the market of vans and pickups.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by tambourine_man on Sunday August 28, 2022 @05:26PM (#32632220)
People buy laptops, mostly. They don’t even buy individual chips, aside from niche markets. So comparing MacBooks to Lenovos and the likes seem pretty distant from the Ferrari vs trucks analogy.

I also seems undeniable that Apple's move to custom silicon shook up the entire market, challenged preconceptions. It was a pivotal moment for the industry as a whole, not Macs only.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday August 28, 2022 @05:59PM (#32632496)
The compute chip market is much, much bigger than just laptops, iPhones and MacBooks. Like I said, it' also servers, FPGAs, cloud, datacenters, consoles, GPUs, AI-ML, cars, vision, etc. and Apple's silicone is absent form most of those sectors while these are Nvidia's, Intel and AMD's bread and butter. So comparing a chip that can only be found in Apple laptops to chips from Intel and AMD that are sold and used in hundreds of other industries and thousands of different devices is completely pointless as they're not competing in the same sectors.

When Apple will sell its chips to consumers, PC OEMs, datacenters, console manufacturers, AI and car companies, with full documentation and Linux support, in order to compete on the same turf with Intel and AMD, then we can talk about an industry wide revolution. But until then, this "revolution" will not extend beyond the Apple/Mac ecosystem where Apple has no competitors, and who's market share in the general PC space is still tiny.

Re:Intel enters a new era of chiplets by tambourine_man on Monday August 29, 2022 @08:39AM (#32637422)
Apple doesn’t have to sell parts in order to change the industry. Check out Intel’s offerings and roadmap and compare it to two years ago.