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Re:Finnish as a world language? by rendall on Friday August 26, 2022 @02:50PM (#32611299)
One annoying thing about Finnish is that you have to say the whole year, no shortcuts. 1975 is "one thousand, nine hundred and seventy five" None of this nineteen-seventy-five efficiency nonsense. And, of course, you have to say it in Finnish numerals which are all looooong: vuosi yksi-tuhat-yhdeksänsataa-seitsemänkymmentä-viisi

Saatanan kyrpä, kun saavun numeron loppuun, en muista vitun alkun.

Re:Finnish as a world language? by wilihybrid on Friday August 26, 2022 @06:35PM (#32613527)
Nah, doesn't work like that in practical (spoken) Finnish. Someone born in 1975 would be "seiskafemma", someone in 1984 "kasinelonen" and so forth. Even spelling the whole word out would be along the lines of "ysitoista seitenviis" (19 75). No-one would ever say "yksi-tuhat..."
Re:Finnish as a world language? by CRConrad on Saturday August 27, 2022 @03:55PM (#32622557)
> No-one would ever say "yksi-tuhat..."

They do on the TV (and, I assume, radio) news. But even they sometimes stumble over them, which leads me to further assume that the announcers only speak that way on the air.

Re:Finnish as a world language? by rendall on Saturday August 27, 2022 @02:28AM (#32616339)
What dialect is that wilihybrid? "seiskafemma"?
Re:Finnish as a world language? by CRConrad on Saturday August 27, 2022 @04:02PM (#32622621)
Stadin slangi?

Well, not the near-undecipherable real deal[1] Stadin Slangi, but just ordinary contemporary colloquial, I guess.

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[1]: Near-half (old-fashioned) Swedish, near-half (old-fashioned) Russian, a tiny smattering of (old-fashioned) Finnish.

Re:Finnish as a world language? by rendall on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:15AM (#32650761)
Hmm. I mean, "femma" is like a "fiver". "Seiska" is the nickname for the tabloid "7" (that became its official name). "Seiskafemma" though? Seems weird.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by CRConrad on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:29PM (#32667153)
Yeah, "femma" is literally "fiver" in Swedish. (Or "fifth"; "Jag kom femma i loppet" means "I placed fifth in the race".) And "seiska" is the colloquial pronunciation of seven in general, not just that publication.

So "seiskafemma" is just the digita concatenated; "seven-five" in stead of "seventy-five". Doesn't feel all that weird to me. For one thing, other languages do that too. And for another, it's all the "-kymmenen" bits that are too long to pronounce, so leaving them out (when that doesn't introduce confusion, of course) seems eminently sensible. Really not weird at all.

Re:Finnish as a world language? by Ndymium on Friday August 26, 2022 @04:26PM (#32612353)
Just a note, you wouldn't say yksi-tuhat, as just tuhat already implies "one". So rather tuhatyhdeksänsataaseitsemänkymmentäviisi or as I'd say it out loud, tuhatyheksänsataaseitkytviis.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by rendall on Saturday August 27, 2022 @05:40AM (#32617352)
Ok, fair point. You are correct. Removing it lets us reduce the monster by one point five syllables: vuosi tuhat-yhdeksänsataa-seitsemänkymmentä-viisi
Re:Finnish as a world language? by rendall on Friday August 26, 2022 @05:29PM (#32612969)
Yes, you can shorten it, by deploying a kind of semi-sanctified mumbling they call puhekieli: tuhatyhekssataaseiskytviis

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Re:Finnish as a world language? by mostlylurks on Friday August 26, 2022 @03:09PM (#32611495)
There are shortcuts, they're just different than those you have in English. 1975 for me would be vuos seittenviis, vuos seitkytviis, or vuos tuhatysiseittenviis. And if I wanted to say in the year ____, I'd just have to change vuos to vuon. The set of shortcuts you could use when writing in the literary variety is more constrained, however.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by lawlorino on Friday August 26, 2022 @03:07PM (#32611469)
You can absolutely shorten pronunciation of numbers, including years, when speaking Finnish https://uusikielemme.fi/finnish-vocabulary/vocabulary-lists/...
Re:Finnish as a world language? by tzot on Friday August 26, 2022 @03:48PM (#32611940)
There's a legend that no Finnish ever says what the current year is; by the time they… finish, they're wrong.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by vikaveri on Friday August 26, 2022 @03:03PM (#32611423)
Finns do commonly use nineteen-seventyfive, or even seiskaviis or seven-five, when it's clear what year it means. There are plenty of shortcuts. Only if you want to be "official" the whole number is said
Re:Finnish as a world language? by Tor3 on Friday August 26, 2022 @02:58PM (#32611375)
You do exactly the same in Italian - I never found it inconvenient or annoying.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by atestu on Friday August 26, 2022 @09:38PM (#32614714)
Same in French. I agree.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by glandium on Saturday August 27, 2022 @02:37AM (#32616392)
But in French, we skip 1900 in most 19xx years. I wonder when we'll start doing it for the 20xx years.
Re:Finnish as a world language? by Bakary on Friday August 26, 2022 @04:02PM (#32612089)
In Mandarin you can just say "one nine seven five"! Though you usually have to add "year" after that.