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Re:America’s Affordable Housing Problem by bsder on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:14PM (#32585848)
"Zoning" is fine.

The problem is that the primary purpose for US "zoning" was discrimination.

"Zoning" in Japan, for example, is different. It sets things like minimum acceptable noise levels, emissions, traffic flows, etc. Within that, everything is allowed.

Want to put a house in the middle of a commercial area? Sure, fine. But then you don't get to complain about the noise. Want to put a commercial building in a residential area? Sure, but you will get shut down if you make too much noise or create too much traffic.

Re:America’s Affordable Housing Problem by coding123 on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:29PM (#32586026)
I've advocated in the past for noise based zoning and it was, to my surprise in HN pretty well upvoted. It's a great idea. I would offer too however that it should be noise and pollution. You can have a very quiet plastic melting factory killing a lot of people nearby.
Re:America’s Affordable Housing Problem by anon291 on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:32PM (#32587296)
Toxic waste and pollution is an example of an externality that absolutely should be regulated, but it's not necessary to do that via zoning. Just specify how much space such a factory must have to the nearest residential area in order to be built. That's not a zoning law. That's just a business usage law. Similar to how I can't make noise in my neighborhood past 10PM.
Re:America’s Affordable Housing Problem by bsder on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @06:15PM (#32586512)
Thus why I mentioned "emissions".

As much as I love BBQ, if someone opened a restaurant and started smoking at 1AM everyday next to my house, I'd be pretty upset.

On the other hand, I probably wouldn't care if a couple of architects wanted to set up shop next to my house.

Re:America’s Affordable Housing Problem by anon291 on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:30PM (#32587279)
> "Zoning" in Japan, for example, is different. It sets things like minimum acceptable noise levels, emissions, traffic flows, etc. Within that, everything is allowed.

Again... this is NOT zoning.

Zoning is taking a parcel of raw land, subdividing it, and then, before anything is built, deciding what goes where. You'll say 'this square is a restaurant, slap a C1 zoning on it', and 'this square is a house, so slap an R1 on it'. You'll do this en masse, without any regard for the actual inhabitants or businesses occupying this district.

Things like setting minimum noise levels, street sizes, etc, are part of permitting. We can have a separate discussion here, but this is not 'zoning'.

Re:America’s Affordable Housing Problem by kansface on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @05:22PM (#32585956)
Hard to image that working in the US even if the laws were to exist. I mostly see the loud commercial business acting with impunity. However, we are good at keeping the business from existing in the first place.