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Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by adrianN on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:01AM (#32563546)
Replacing cars with bicycles is one of the most "proper" ways of decarbonizing transportation.
Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by lm28469 on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:25AM (#32563819)
But apparently only expensive and new electric bikes, not regular bikes or used bikes. And you have to make 900 euros a months, otherwise you're not worthy of assistance, but also you have to pay 60% out of pocket....
Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by adrianN on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:28AM (#32563856)
It's certainly far from perfect, but it's still replacing cars with bicycles.
Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @09:58AM (#32565013)
Yeah, but the bottom of the market where there's no slack isn't where you start.

Kicking the poors while they're down and/or pulling the rug out from under people who are just barely doing better is not a sustainable way of decarbonizing society and it seems like every decarbonizing policy does just that. We can get away with a few such policies but when they're all like that it doesn't work.

Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:49AM (#32564117)
I doubt many people would actually replace cars with bicycles.

It's not the same use case and in congested places like central Paris people who need a motor have scooters.

Feedback stats on these schemes are important but rarely conducted or published in a transparent way as the government obviously has a vested interest in claiming that they work great.

Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by adrianN on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:57AM (#32564241)
Since you need to get rid of a car to get the subsidy and you have to pay a substantial part of the cost of the bicycle yourself, even if you wanted to scrap a car to buy a new one you probably expect to use the electric bike at least often enough to justify paying the subsidized price for it.
Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @12:26PM (#32567269)
The point of my previous comment is that I don't see many people swapping their car for an ebike. That would be the key metric to judge this scheme (alongside the actual cost to taxpayers...)

I am sure some people will use the scheme but probably because they were thinking of getting an ebike anyway and a replacing their car for a new one...

It's the usual and main issue with those schemes: they are political decisions and don't always make practical or economical sense.

Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by pjmlp on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @09:20AM (#32564507)
Sure, if you want one bycicle per person on the family, and everyone enjoys getting soaked in water during Winter.