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Re:The mental Universe (2005) [pdf] by EmilyHughes on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @06:51AM (#32562921)
Particles and waves are mental. What was the dream you had last night made up of? Maybe you dreamt of running scientific experiments and finding atoms, would that get you any nearer to the metaphysical truth of what that particular dream is made up of?

Consider you never stopped dreaming when you woke up, the dream just shifted into a more concrete and physical state. But there is no physical you sleeping in some higher reality.

Mind is the rock bottom.

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Re:The mental Universe (2005) [pdf] by yellowflash on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @12:04PM (#32566969)
"Once, Zhuang Zhou dreamed he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering about, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know that he was Zhuang Zhou. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuang Zhou. But he didn't know if he was Zhuang Zhou who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming that he was Zhuang Zhou. Between Zhuang Zhou and the butterfly there must be some distinction! This is called the Transformation of Things"
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Re:The mental Universe (2005) [pdf] by lioeters on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @04:40PM (#32571183)
Right, this is what Buddhist philosophy and psychology have been saying for centuries, for example, the Mind-Only School.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mind_only

Quantum mechanics and the "observer effect" seem to be coming to similar conclusions, dragging postmodern materialists to consider the "mind" as fundamental to physics.

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