How Facebook is ruining sharing

Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by tatsuke95 on Saturday November 19, 2011 @10:41AM (#3255461)

Yep, I'm the same way. Installing Apps was a novelty at one point, now I won't install anything. I've started using Facebook less and less.

Another deceptive tactic? Apparently my account has "low security". So I go in and see what my settings are adjusted to. Everything how I like it (private). But the "low security" warning sits there, in perpetuity, until I give Facebook my phone number, apparently.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by orijing on Saturday November 19, 2011 @01:30PM (#3255840)

That's because it considers your account low-security until you enable two-factor authentication, which having a phone with SMS allows. The number isn't to fill out your profile, and has nothing to do with privacy settings. Facebook takes security very seriously, and it would be better for everyone's safety if everyone set up two-factor, just like having everyone around you vaccinated is better for you.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by throwaway64 on Saturday November 19, 2011 @01:36PM (#3255856)

>The number isn't to fill out your profile

That may not be the stated purpose, but i am 100% certain they use it for profiling purposes aswell.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by rhizome on Saturday November 19, 2011 @02:36PM (#3256014)

The number isn't to fill out your profile, and has nothing to do with privacy settings.

At least as far as users are concerned, right? I mean, it's not not being used to fill out your profile on the backend, either.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by modeless on Saturday November 19, 2011 @02:23PM (#3255980)

Two-factor via SMS is for dumbphones. Facebook should support RFC 4226 to allow smartphone apps to generate codes without communicating with Facebook.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by adgar on Saturday November 19, 2011 @04:35PM (#3256328)

They should support RFC 4226, as google does, but they still need to support SMS with the size and diversity of their userbase. Google offers SMS as well.

How long before every facebook user has a device that can do RFC 4226? I hope soon, but kind of doubt it'll happen this decade.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by tatsuke95 on Sunday November 20, 2011 @09:56AM (#3258197)

I guess that's one way to look at it, but your analogy is flawed. I'm mostly unaffected by anyone else having their account hacked, whether or not they've implemented two-factor authentication.

But I really believe they just want my phone number. Why do they tell me the security is "low"? Why not "medium"? What if I don't have a cell phone? Without giving them a number, I guess I live on a low security site? It's FUD, just like those popups telling me my security settings on my PC are "low", or that I have a "virus".

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by effigies on Saturday November 19, 2011 @09:21AM (#3255332)

You know you can hit the cancel button and it'll take you to the actual article, instead, right?

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by vegashacker on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:49AM (#3255599)

FYI, even if you click cancel it will still advertise you to your friends ("Rob uses this app" in the bottom left corner of the signup popup). Which seems pretty questionable.

I verified with two other friends--I saw both of them in the "so and so uses the app" section and neither of them had ever added the app (only "cancelled").

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by artursapek on Saturday November 19, 2011 @12:28PM (#3255699)

I hope that's just a bug.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by X-Istence on Sunday November 20, 2011 @04:27AM (#3257712)

Facebook has used my profile picture in the past to advertise their "connect with email to find more friends". I will NEVER give Facebook my credentials for ANY of my email accounts.

It annoys me though that my likeness has been used in an attempt to get "my friends" to also type in their credentials.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by uptown on Saturday November 19, 2011 @10:00AM (#3255394)

I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip. In terms of usability, it's a deceptive way to handle opting out of installing their app. A news agency resorting to deception to promote their content ... just what I hope for from someone claiming to be an authority in something.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by tijs on Sunday November 20, 2011 @07:42AM (#3257983)

To be fair, it's Facebook promoting this interface and the news agencies / publishers just being too spineless to say no (dwindling readership and such) and/or really believing it will get more people to read their stuff.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by rst on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:33AM (#3255559)

I discovered that by accident. It's nice once you know about it, but the "cancel" label is very poor --- it reads much more like "forget about even trying to read this article" than "read the article and to hell with the signup page".

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by v21 on Saturday November 19, 2011 @09:28AM (#3255348)

I had absolutely no idea!

...which is a problem.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by SonicSoul on Saturday November 19, 2011 @12:24PM (#3255692)

why do i have to "install an app" to be re-directed to an article? these tactics just seem to me as "creative" ways to get people to agree to have more information about them published. I've yet to say "yes" to any such prompt on Facebook.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by sbov on Saturday November 19, 2011 @08:05PM (#3256890)

Heh, it's almost like Facebook learned something from all those spammy apps.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by billpatrianakos on Saturday November 19, 2011 @01:47PM (#3255890)

I didn't know about cancel. I guess the issue is why do we have to find out this way? It's not an expected behavior and that's going to piss a lot of people off. So there's an easy way to get what you want, it's staring you in the face, but we all ignore it because it looks as though it isn't going to do what we want. Not a good design but then again design is about choices and maybe they figured it's worth it to make people learn the hard way.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by paul9290 on Saturday November 19, 2011 @12:48PM (#3255754)

Same here .. i just want to click the link and be taken to the article to read it.

This is a behavior we all are used to. Why make something simple more complicated for your users???

For me i just highlight the title of article and go thru google to read it.

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Re:How Facebook is ruining sharing by mikerice on Saturday November 19, 2011 @11:03AM (#3255499)

Same here. It's basically the equivalent of spam to me now.

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