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Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by kspacewalk2 on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:16AM (#32551719)
I mean, the screen is a major part of that initial 1000 EUR cost. Could easily be half. No way you can get a MacBook Air M1 for much less that 1000 EUR used, those things keep their price for years and years. And how much were you willing to part with? Is that 100-200 (or even 300) EUR difference really worth the near-aneurysm you're having?

I am like this too. I will flip my lid over something like this, but about half the time upon further reflection I will come to the conclusion that I was being irrational, and simply upset at how much things objectively cost or how long things take, or whatever.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by chaosbolt on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:29AM (#32551916)
>I mean, the screen is a major part of that initial 1000 EUR cost. Could easily be half.

The macbook air m1 here is 1100 euros, the mac mini is 800 euros.

So the keyboard, trackpad, battery, screen and form factor are worth 300 euro according to Apple. So that LCD screen they put there even though has a high res, is definitely not worth half the price of the laptop.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by cmeacham98 on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:21AM (#32551785)
You seriously believe that a screen replacement (even after including labor) costs 70% of the price of the laptop? And that OP is irrational for thinking otherwise?
Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by samatman on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:36AM (#32552037)
Seems plausible, yes.

The screens arrive at the factory by boat, in an optimally-packed container. Replacement screens are individually packaged and delivered in low volume by courier.

Apple must first examine the laptop, which isn't free, then put in the replacement, and do acceptance testing, because they warranty repairs, and even if they didn't, not repairing something and claiming it's a repair is bad press.

Maybe they make profit as well who knows, but it's easy for me to believe that the assembly-line price of a screen triples by the time a repair is installed and the user gets the laptop back.

Starting to look like some of the M1 Airs got a bad batch of screen glass, which is a separate matter. If so, here's my prediction: Apple will do the same thing they did for the butterfly keyboards and eat the replacement cost, and people will be complaining about it ten years later.

Unlike the butterfly fiasco, I'm not betting on this being a design flaw, it's either the law of large numbers or a badly-tempered batch of glass.

None of that is relevant to the cost to replace an uninsured screen which broke under user-error conditions.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by cmeacham98 on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:46AM (#32552213)
Everyone here is capable of looking up shipping prices from China or similar even for the volume of 1 screen, and seeing it doesn't cost hundreds of dollars.

Similarly, the average pay of Genius Bar employees and Apple repair techs is semi-public knowledge that can be found on the internet.

Nobody is believing that it costs Apple $400-500 in additional expenses _per screen_ to repair MacBooks.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by dis-sys on Monday August 22, 2022 @12:01PM (#32553334)
> but it's easy for me to believe that the assembly-line price of a screen triples by the time a repair is installed and the user gets the laptop back.

Like it or not, in a lovely city called Shenzhen, it costs you $200 to get your macbook pro's screen replaced in a regular roadside repair shop just next building to your fancy apple shop.

As a low skill job, you get to master the procedure by watching online video tutorials, interestingly, that is also a viable business in Shenzhen, they have such "online schools" to get people trained for such jobs and some of their videos are free -

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLCQRIZLWDzzzhgKwSWBoRg/vid...

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by samatman on Monday August 22, 2022 @12:21PM (#32553615)
No doubt, feel free to find a service in Shenzhen you can ship your Mac to and employ them. It's not even implausible if you speak fluent Chinese, there are uh. Limits to your ability to recover if you make a bad choice, but it might work out.

And locals can import those screens right? Little bit of markup. Anyway let me know what the actual price is where you are, from someone who will actually do it, and isn't Apple, all of this is legal and the service is available. That will give us a point of comparison.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by shepherdjerred on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:25AM (#32551851)
A replacement costs $600 at iFixit: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/MacBook-Pro-14-Inch-2021-A2...

That seems like a pretty normal price for recent MacBook screens: https://www.ifixit.com/Parts/MacBook_Pro_13%22/Screens

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by cmeacham98 on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:28AM (#32551895)
iFixit has to get those screens by salvaging them off of MacBooks. The cost to Apple to produce the screen is almost certainly closer to $100-$200.
Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by kspacewalk2 on Monday August 22, 2022 @12:58PM (#32554104)
>The cost to Apple to produce the screen is almost certainly closer to $100-$200.

Where are you getting this number from? Why not $50, or $300?

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by hashishen on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:30AM (#32551927)
Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by widowlark on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:43AM (#32552163)
So many people commenting on OP's post essentially gaslighting them for not wanting to pay $1000 for a screen repair, as if we dont live in a universe where replacing screens on every other product is 1/3 that cost.
Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by achow on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:29AM (#32551914)
Alibaba.com: $167 for generic replacement. Considering Apple's buying power it would cost less than that.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-Laptop-Apple-Scre...

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by tpmoney on Monday August 22, 2022 @11:25AM (#32552799)
Yes the well known “touch screen” that MacBook Airs are well known for. Displays might be able to be had cheaper (in fact straight from the manufacturer they surely are) but I’m not sure I would trust buying from a vendor that doesn’t even know what they’re selling
Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by danieldk on Monday August 22, 2022 @10:34AM (#32551989)
How many nits? Does it support the P3 colorspace? Does it support TrueTone?

How do you know if it is even a remotely comparable screen qualitatively?

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by achow on Monday August 22, 2022 @01:05PM (#32554208)
Well.. well.. well, another source quotes even lower - $52 for 13" display.

Is Apple Fleecing you?

https://medium.com/macoclock/is-apple-fleecing-you-a682c851a...

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by kspacewalk2 on Monday August 22, 2022 @01:00PM (#32554130)
>generic replacement

Could they be dead-pixel factory rejects that aren't even like-for-like? "Touchscreen" seems suspect.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by dis-sys on Monday August 22, 2022 @11:45AM (#32553107)
> the screen is a major part of that initial 1000 EUR cost

No, LCD screens are pretty affordable these days. You can buy yourself a portable external display with a 4k samsung panel for about $200-250 depending on where are you. Such portable displays have extra batteries included, so extra $ costs included.

Re:Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks by kspacewalk2 on Monday August 22, 2022 @01:00PM (#32554146)
We're not talking generally about LCD screens. We're talking about an original part to a specific laptop.