Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by ricardobeat on Monday August 22, 2022 @09:35AM
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That’s not an answer to the parent’s question. HackerOne has a disclosure process despite the NDA, so what part of the process is the issue? Or is it simply “hackerone bad”?
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Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by jknoepfler on Monday August 22, 2022 @09:50AM
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They have no interest in signing away their right to disclose the vulnerability at the behest of a private, for-profit entity, because they believe public disclosure of security vulnerabilities is crucial to improving security.
Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by ImPostingOnHN on Monday August 22, 2022 @12:51PM
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if they have a disclosure process, what purpose is served by the non-disclosure agreement?
what with non-disclosure being literally the opposite of disclosure & everything
Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by tptacek on Monday August 22, 2022 @01:28PM
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They pay you money, you disclose exclusively on their terms. That's the deal, and the purpose of the NDA. If you don't like the NDA terms, you don't engage with the bounty program, and you just publish on your own. There's no reasonable way to make a whole big thing out of this.
Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by thaeli on Monday August 22, 2022 @02:28PM
(#32555283)
The only reason it's a "thing" is that the reporters in this case were attempting to do a responsible, coordinated disclosure. That's important for their own brand - many clients would be reluctant to hire a security consultant who just dropped 0days without a damn good reason. So this is documentation and justification for why they did a unilateral disclosure - the expectation is that you "show your work" and be clear that you tried to work with the vendor and they wouldn't work with you in good faith so you had no choice but to unilaterally disclose.
Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by tptacek on Monday August 22, 2022 @04:25PM
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Nobody is going to avoid hiring a security consultancy that posts bugs with a coordinated timeline that notes they didn't engage with the bounty program.
Re:Ridiculous vulnerability disclosure process with CrowdStr...
by ImPostingOnHN on Monday August 22, 2022 @02:12PM
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right, if you don't like the terms of the NDA, don't agree to it
that is precisely the choice made by the team in the article, because the NDA was bad, for the reasons you described
so it sounds like everyone is OK with this, the authoring team is just describing that issue, along with other issues, with the bug disclosure process (like lying about there being no vulnerability while simultaneously fixing it)