Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws

Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by bambax on Saturday August 20, 2022 @01:53AM (#32529510)

Yes, this is a poor and politically charged article; we don't have to read far to get to a beautiful application of Godwin's law:

> Tim Stainton, director of the Canadian Institute for Inclusion and Citizenship at the University of British Columbia, described Canada’s law as “probably the biggest existential threat to disabled people since the Nazis’ program in Germany in the 1930s.”

Euthanasia and assisted suicide is not murder. It's helping people who feel they don't have any other option.

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by bolangi on Saturday August 20, 2022 @02:05AM (#32529572)

What do you call assisted suicide that is not assented to by the subject?

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by bambax on Saturday August 20, 2022 @03:41AM (#32530086)

An impossibility. If there is no consent there is no "suicide", assisted or otherwise.

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by ben_w on Saturday August 20, 2022 @05:13AM (#32530610)

The term for what is done to pets and research animals is "euthanasia" — is that consensual? Or even "assented" or "acquiesced" to, if you want to side-step the question of how informed one has to be for it to count as "consent".

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by mberger on Saturday August 20, 2022 @08:22AM (#32531499)

Pets are not people and cannot consent. Euthanasia is not assisted dying. There is no 'assistance' when one party doesn't share the goal. Straw man.

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by ben_w on Saturday August 20, 2022 @06:52PM (#32535868)

The previous comments, the link text, the article on the other side of the link, and the Canadian members of parliament debating this law all used the term “euthanasia”, so no, it is not a straw man.

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by oleander73 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @02:12AM (#32529600)

A contradictio in terminis.

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by pavlov5867 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @08:41AM (#32531616)

Any reference to Nazis is not in itself an example of Godwins law. This is a discussion about state-run eugenics programs, so the reference isn't fallacious. Even Reductio ad Hitlerum acknowledges this[1]

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

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Re:Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws by pyuser583 on Saturday August 20, 2022 @04:18PM (#32534880)

A nitpick:

The Nazi “mandatory euthanasia” program began in December 1939, and continued until 1945. The first facility dedicated to killing the disabled opened in February 1940.

So it was the 1940s, not 1930s.

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