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Re:High-speed rail board completes environmental clearance i... by culi on Friday August 19, 2022 @10:56PM (#32528594)
In 2017, 6.5% of global GDP ($5.2 trillion) was spent on fossil fuel subsidies. And you're complaining about trains? Most of the money wasted has been because litigation battles by wealthy individuals who oppose the project

$105 billion is about the size of California's current (and growing) surplus. Or about a fifth of how much California spent in 2021 ($512.8 billion). Yes it could be used to do more important things in the immediate sense but projects like these pay off tenfold in the long term

Re:High-speed rail board completes environmental clearance i... by joe_the_user on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:08PM (#32528668)
In 2017, 6.5% of global GDP ($5.2 trillion) was spent on fossil fuel subsidies. And you're complaining about trains?

Yes, he's complaining about the abject failure of trains (and I have too). The project won't pay off if the same corruption that cost $105 billions results in an impractical project and that's the common result.

The US can't create an alternative to fossil fuels unless it solves it's inability to create public transit projects problem.

Re:High-speed rail board completes environmental clearance i... by panick21_ on Saturday August 20, 2022 @01:14AM (#32529300)
One way to get better at infrastructure is to actually build it. Japan also massively over-payed for their first High speed rail, but got better at it.

And if that money is not invested in trains, they only other suggestion practically speaking is, lets make highways bigger.

So yeah, I agree, you the US needs to get better at public infrastructure projects, but doing so while also working on trains, is better then doing so and building insane Texas highway cloverleaf interchanges.

Re:High-speed rail board completes environmental clearance i... by joe_the_user on Saturday August 20, 2022 @04:19PM (#32534881)
One way to get better at infrastructure is to actually build it. Japan also massively over-payed for their first High speed rail, but got better at it.

If a nation pays a lot for a given infrastructure project because the nation is developing the means to produce it, then that nation would likely be able to produce the thing better later. Maybe that's Japan.

If a nation pays a lot for a given infrastructure project because corrupt interests have positioned themselves to soak up a lion's share of the money, there's no reason to think that won't happen the next time. That's what happens in the US. Further, thing about the US is that failed public transit project have become normal and accepted. Something is needed to change this but uncritically throwing money at them obviously won't be it.

Re:High-speed rail board completes environmental clearance i... by kortilla on Saturday August 20, 2022 @12:21AM (#32529052)
> sense but projects like these pay off tenfold in the long term

Citation needed. “People really like it” doesn’t mean it paid off.