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Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by animal_spirits on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:34AM (#32522297)
Here is a study suggesting the opposite to your claim:

   Light alcohol drinking and cancer: a meta-analysis


    Abstract

    Background: There is convincing evidence that alcohol consumption increases the risk of cancer of the colorectum, breast, larynx, liver, esophagus, oral cavity and pharynx. Most of the data derive from studies that focused on the effect of moderate/high alcohol intakes, while little is known about light alcohol drinking (up to 1 drink/day).

    Patients and methods: We evaluated the association between light drinking and cancer of the colorectum, breast, larynx, liver, esophagus, oral cavity and pharynx, through a meta-analytic approach. We searched epidemiological studies using PubMed, ISI Web of Science and EMBASE, published before December 2010.

    Results: We included 222 articles comprising ∼92 000 light drinkers and 60 000 non-drinkers with cancer. Light drinking was associated with the risk of oropharyngeal cancer [relative risk, RR = 1.17; 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.06-1.29], esophageal squamous cell carcinoma (SCC) (RR = 1.30; 95% CI 1.09-1.56) and female breast cancer (RR = 1.05; 95% CI 1.02-1.08). We estimated that ∼5000 deaths from oropharyngeal cancer, 24 000 from esophageal SCC and 5000 from breast cancer were attributable to light drinking in 2004 worldwide. No association was found for colorectum, liver and larynx tumors.

    Conclusions: Light drinking increases the risk of cancer of oral cavity and pharynx, esophagus and female breast.
[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22910838/
Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by TaupeRanger on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:55AM (#32522594)
The reply to this study from S-K Myung points out its flaws: https://www.annalsofoncology.org/article/S0923-7534(19)35822.... Further, as with all epidemiological studies on diet, there are plenty of studies showing the exact opposite (a protective effect of alcohol):

Alcohol lowers incidence of Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590626/#b32-ar...

Alcohol lowers incidence of melanoma: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590626/#b3-arc...

Light drinking reduces leukemia incidence by 10%: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590626/#b72-ar...

Lower risk of thyroid cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590626/#b20-ar...

Lower risk of renal cell carcinoma: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590626/#b83-ar...

Lower risk of triple negative breast cancer in alcohol drinkers: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590626/#b44-ar...

Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by tpoacher on Friday August 19, 2022 @03:10PM (#32524920)
so ... alcohol is protective against diseases of old age?
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Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by TaupeRanger on Friday August 19, 2022 @12:50PM (#32523385)
Not sure where your animosity and disregard for science is coming from, but it doesn't seem like you're interested in having a discussion, having made up your mind to simply ignore any evidence that doesn't suit you.
Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by notch656a on Friday August 19, 2022 @12:52PM (#32523415)
How about I drink anyway, still have a partner and kids, still drive (while I'm not drinking), live and visit in whatever country I have legal authorization to live, and I shitcan your opinion. Cheers!
Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by weberer on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:46AM (#32522483)
So a significant amount, but most people would say that's an acceptable risk to continue their lifestyle. For comparison, living in an urban environment has a RR of 1.20 to 1.40 for lung cancer.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3703988

Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by novok on Friday August 19, 2022 @02:17PM (#32524395)
That data is looking over a 1985-1990 / 1950-1990 time period. I wonder what the numbers are now with modern emissions improvements 30 years later, which are pretty big now!

And with electric car & electric heat pump transitions, how much better will it get on top of that going forward?

Also urban people tend to be wealthier, and also live longer.

Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by philote on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:38AM (#32522363)
Could it be that people who don't drink alcohol also largely don't smoke? Was that controlled for in this study?
Re:Smoking, alcohol and high BMI are leading risk factors fo... by dwringer on Friday August 19, 2022 @11:51AM (#32522555)
I noted that it simply defines "light drinker" as <= 1 drink per day. It's not clear to me from reading the study how someone who drinks once every two or three days, or once a week, would be classified. The authors note some of the studies they incorporated in their results considered occasional drinking as "non-drinker" while others did not, so it seems that it was not consistent. However, it seems that in some cases the "non-drinker" category means people who completely abstain from alcohol.

Presumably you're right, they would be less likely to smoke, and I would imagine also possibly more health conscious in other ways. The authors mention that a different analysis of 15 studies of alcohol use among never-smokers was similar to their own findings, but also caution that tobacco could indeed be having an influence on their results (or even a possible synergistic effect with alcohol).