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Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by nopenopenopeno on Thursday August 18, 2022 @09:12PM (#32516684)
I don’t think American prison labor qualifies as “jobs” since it doesn’t even pay close to minimum wage, which is a ridiculously low bar to begin with.
Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by feet on Thursday August 18, 2022 @09:48PM (#32516867)
Does that mean China is actually better then the US in this circumstance?
Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by DiggyJohnson on Friday August 19, 2022 @03:54AM (#32518496)
> better

Do you mean to ask who pays their prisoners more for their labor?

Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by feet on Friday August 19, 2022 @12:25PM (#32523040)
Yes, in the US prison slavery is legal and practiced
Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by DiggyJohnson on Friday August 19, 2022 @03:43PM (#32525237)
What is the fundamental different between incarceration and penal labor? How can you be so strongly against the latter and not the former?

I would happy to see the abolition of penal labor, but the widespread attempt to cast it as “slavery” feels hyperbolic - especially in comparison to the reality of chattel slavery.

Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by feet on Friday August 19, 2022 @05:02PM (#32525862)
They are literally forced to do unpaid labor. There are also prison jobs that do pay, but extremely low amounts and those are generally optional. Prisons do also offer volunteer work, it being voluntary makes it not slavery.

Incarceration on the other hand is a different topic altogether and I think the US system is incredibly harmful and creates an environment that produces recidivism. The Nordic system of rehabilitation is far better.

Re:U.N. expert says minorities suffer slavery in Xinjiang by nopenopenopeno on Saturday August 20, 2022 @05:57PM (#32535493)
There is actually a pretty good subplot about this in Gone With The Wind. It’s slavery.