Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by klelatti on Thursday August 18, 2022 @11:16AM
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The risk that TSMC doesn't deliver on node improvements / deliver the relevant SoCs in the required numbers.
And if you think that risk is small / nil I would point you to Intel's recent track record.
And just to point out that Apple actually does bear the risk you've highlighted as Itanium was a design (which Apple does) not a manufacturing failure.
Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by lotsofpulp on Thursday August 18, 2022 @11:17AM
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There is also risk that sufficient consumers do not want to buy Apple’s products at a sufficient price premium to offset the price premium that Apple paid to TSMC.
Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by wmf on Thursday August 18, 2022 @02:59PM
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For a specific recent example of this risk we can look at Nvidia who put down huge deposits for N4 wafers and now doesn't have enough customer demand for those chips.
Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by klelatti on Thursday August 18, 2022 @11:18AM
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Good point!
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Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by colinmhayes on Thursday August 18, 2022 @11:33AM
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> Oh no, the company that never failed a delivery might fail the delivery! Such a risk
You could say the same thing about Intel until they blew it with 10nm. Who knows what the future holds
Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by klelatti on Thursday August 18, 2022 @11:37AM
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Exactly.
Also blaming Intel's process problems on Itanium (discontinued 2011) is - well an interesting perspective!
Re:TSMC to begin 3nm chip production next month
by Tagbert on Thursday August 18, 2022 @11:17AM
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One risk comes from the long lead times of chip design and production. They are committing to a design and process and hoping that production can occur on time and in the right volume to meet there needs. That is not a certainty and a delay could be very expensive since product releases are tied to the new chips.
Takes what risks ? Buying the riskless new transistors that TSMC puts out because they know that they work ?
Apple taking risks would be making the chips themselves (see: the failure that was itanium and how it screwed Intel because they had to reorganize their facilities for it), not buying it wholesale and just having TSMC print it.