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Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by fein on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @08:08PM (#32503514)
So what? It's an abhorrent and dystopian law along with Saudi Arabia's speech laws. He has never done a violent thing to a person, has not defrauded anyone, and is in jail for 10 years due to writing political parodies.
Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by spacechild1 on Thursday August 18, 2022 @05:03AM (#32507047)
Sorry, comparing Austria's and Germany's anti-nazi-laws to Saudi Arabia is beyond ridiculous. Also, I don't know why you keep calling his songs "political parodies", they are outright neo-nazi propaganda...
Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by fein on Thursday August 18, 2022 @09:21AM (#32509201)
They are parodies of songs and national socialism is a set of politics and philosophies - just because you don't like it doesn't make it not political.

> they are outright neo-nazi propaganda...

Yet again, so what? Are you insinuating that people are being assaulted by a song?

> Sorry, comparing Austria's and Germany's anti-nazi-laws to Saudi Arabia is beyond ridiculous.

No, it isn't, and if you're going to claim that it is, you need to explain why.

Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by ethanbond on Thursday August 18, 2022 @09:52AM (#32509588)
Hmm, sure. Perhaps Austria and Germany are a bit culturally traumatized by the horrors they inflicted upon the world under an ideology, and they wish (based on historical data) to prevent such an occurrence again?

I don’t feel qualified to say whether this is effective, but it’s pretty obvious why this is characteristically different from “ruling class wants to crush all dissent against ruling class.”

Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by fein on Thursday August 18, 2022 @10:16AM (#32509932)
> prevent such an occurrence again?

By imprisoning geriatrics and a guy who made some songs people didn't like the messaging of?

> ruling class wants to crush all dissent against ruling class.

I don't see the difference at all. These people are criticizing a sacred cow and the ruling class wants to crush that dissent.

Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by ethanbond on Thursday August 18, 2022 @02:42PM (#32513353)
If you're thinking so hard that you can't see the difference between someone resurrecting the ideology responsible in real, actual, recent history for 20-30 million deaths, versus someone who is criticizing a brutal dictator, then you are thinking too hard.

This doesn't need to break down to some formally correct logical statement. Simply look at the facts of each case, the goals of each party involved, the systems each party uses to legitimize its actions, and the resulting effects of each party pursuing their goals.

Edit: Did you delete your very nasty message accusing me and “my ilk” of being “beyond repair?” I guess that language really fits with the whole “defending neo-Nazis” schtick.

Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by spacechild1 on Thursday August 18, 2022 @04:19PM (#32514392)
> Edit: Did you delete your very nasty message accusing me and “my ilk” of being “beyond repair?”

The comment has been flagged, so it's hidden unless you enable "show dead".

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Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by ethanbond on Thursday August 18, 2022 @03:58PM (#32514171)
That’s cute. No interest in being “repaired” by someone who can’t see the obvious difference between a democracy and a dictatorship, and the clear fact that even identical actions done by the two are not equally legitimate.
Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by fein on Thursday August 18, 2022 @06:30PM (#32515620)
Democracy? So the people of these countries had some say in these laws? They did not. I'm not aware of a democracy on Earth that isn't just a dictatorship with fancy clothes, at least at the federal level.

My man, you're OK with throwing nonviolent offenders in jail for speech. This is not a good look.

Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by ethanbond on Friday August 19, 2022 @09:39AM (#32520799)
A sensible person can think something is not okay and also think it's not equivalent to a theocratic dictatorship.

A sensible person can also see that "being on the losing side of an election" is not equivalent to "not having anything resembling an election."

I wouldn't even chalk these up to nuanced or detailed or subtle distinctions. These are basic, substantial differences that only a disgruntled WEIRD-worlder could struggle to detect.

Re:Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for ... by spacechild1 on Thursday August 18, 2022 @02:44PM (#32513371)
> These people are criticizing a sacred cow and the ruling class wants to crush that dissent.

There is quite a difference between critizing the "Verbotsgesetz" and literally spreading neo-nazi hate speech.