US bans export of tech used in 3nm chip production on security grounds

Re:US bans export of tech used in 3nm chip production on sec... by elzbardico on Monday August 15, 2022 @07:23PM (#32476905)

I expect China to have its own EUV machines in the next few years. Any bans will only serve to convince the Chinese government to give more money to their scientists.

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Re:US bans export of tech used in 3nm chip production on sec... by himinlomax on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @01:54AM (#32479612)

ASML has 32000 employees. Lithography machines are their only product. They have been working on EUV for decades. They're the only company currently able to make it today. They and Nikon are the only companies currently able to make previous gen machines.

A Chinese knockoff would also not have access to their suppliers in most cases, such as Zeiss, which are critical to the tech.

It's going to take a while.

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Re:US bans export of tech used in 3nm chip production on sec... by bogomipz on Monday August 15, 2022 @08:57PM (#32477897)

Can you elaborate? Are they developing them now? If not how realistic is it that they could have something as sophisticated as ASML in a few years?

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Re:US bans export of tech used in 3nm chip production on sec... by rchiang on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:37AM (#32482518)

According to ASML, they have 4700 suppliers (https://www.asml.com/en/company/sustainability/responsible-s...). How many of those are essential to the development of EUV equipment and would be affected by this ban is unclear (though I'd expect a reasonably large percentage).

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Re:US bans export of tech used in 3nm chip production on sec... by arroz on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:02PM (#32478402)

This is not realistic, though in the long term who knows

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